Less variety (mainly cheaper alternatives) of items being listed now, very limited options to build characters
I recall ppl suggesting increasing limit with higher roster / trust stats
Are there any plans to change this? At least give us a tracker of daily limit or something?
Trying few weeks to prepare for new patch with “Max MP Increase” engraving for my Bard and there are basically no accessories (or not decent ones) with it, because it is not currently considered as worth posting.
We’ve been asking for months, they’ll do nothing about it
Another week, still with this bullshit which is doing NOTHING against bots. Tbh I am cutting off part of my roster and play more casual. I am stopping to believe that this game will survive long term. Bot situation is not being solved, players are getting abused by tons of restrictions and catchup for new players is almost impossible. Meanwhile many my friends with thousands of hours are stopping to play, which is pretty demotivating…
Nobody was buying it, even with 100% quality so people stopped posting it long before 20 items limit was introduced.
There has to be some asinine reason they’re keeping this around. There’s literally no consistency when it comes to their measure. 20 item limit applies to everyone but only 1375 and below can’t sell T3 mats. And we still haven’t heard why they can’t implement ROSTER LEVEL BOUND restrictions.
people did not stop posting cheap or non meta items because of the 20 limitation restriction, people stopped post items cause they dont sell
there are plenty of meta items atm on the market with 30-80 quality which never sell
because there are sometimes 2 site full of them, and the past 3 weeks 1 got selled… and it was a 95+ quality one
i could show you hundrets of pages of good accs , which does not sell
because most people have filled their slots for alts, and already bought their accs they need
the market for alt accs is almost non existance, because most people dont make more alts atm, they wait for next week patch to make a new one
price and demand will rise , and then people will put more items in it ,
sadly its not to that extrend like reaper or summoner, because you get 4 engravings for free so some time, which means its only a few items .
players roster are packed, most people cant even timewise play more alts, so they dont make new one. and settled alts dont need accs
that is one of the biggest reason why accs not sell which hten conclude to the point that people dont put them in anymore , and just dismantle accs with decent stats and good engravings
finding offmeta accs is even more worse… or you have to pay for them even more than meta items
You live in some weird world where everyone has full roster and everyone is aware of game as we are. That is not true, many people have 1-2 chars and gold just for cheaper stuff. Many people is not reading patchnotes, going on forums, watching game videos, many people just simply play. Sure that cheaper stuff is sold for 1/10 of price of 90+ quality, but many people do not care about quality as long it is at least green. You consider top 5% as 90%.
Just put to filters some decent engraving combo and you will see that greens normally sell. Sure not for 50k, but still some profit, 50k items dont really drop that often.
Well people obviously buy it (and you again asumed without facts check) if it is available. Bard will have much higher mana consumption as soon balance patch come.
Sales History of MP increase 5, Awakening 3, Swift/Spec. None available to buy at the moment.
Sales History of MP increase 5, Expert 3, Swift/Spec. None available to buy at the moment.
According to your ‘logic’ people stopped posting 7-37k value accessories due to 20 items limit.
Makes sense!
i dont know exactly what you want to say with your example… that is one example out of over 1000 combinations which are viable atm for all classes and all speccs
i have 3 bards and one paladin, dont you really think this is a common combination ?
My speccbard and my paladin dont need mp5
also i dont need mp5 for my swiftbards , cause i know how to play and use buffod , which is super cheap and i use conviction/judgement
mp5 is not a must have if you know how to play
and yes is have issues finding for my speccbard ether predetor + awakening aswell … because noone is keeping such a kombination , because its a maxed out 9/7 stone combination for brel hard later on
people dismantle mp5 because first.
same like ether predetor with awakening /expert drops of ether od class engraving for supports
not every paladin or bard is using this items, your example is aniche item , and most people dont know that its worth something
people autodismantle most likely , and you know which item isnt in their favorite list ? right mp5
so your example isnt a valid example
something like grudge/adrenaline/cursed doll/ KBW/increase mass/raidcaptain/Hitmaster/Ambushmaster/expert/awakening/drops of ether/heavy armor/ these are valid combinations
these are the things almost everyone uses
and if you look for those items , there are hundrets of non selled items on the market atleast in EUC
and noone wants them , cause most dont need them anymore
also such combination drop chances are way higher as a mp5 item with a support engraving ,
because there are less variables
so your own example devalued your whole argumentation why we should get rid of that 20 limit restriction
mp5 + support ist just nothing people know about , and dismantle it before they even can look at it
auto dismantling is a big issue for niche items
that has nothing to do with that restriction
i have to correct myself , this is EUC just now 8:20 pm
this is swift mp5 -5 / awakening 3
this is swift mp5 / expert 3
with specc ( what makes no sense at all ) ist toger more than 8 site full of mp5 5 + awakening expert
nonselled
there are 7 sites of selled mp5 + awakening/expert , and from that 7 sites… there are 1 sites of green and 6 sites of 80 quality + selled accs
so even that make my point of a niche item unvalid
but that people dont post something because of 20 limit registration aswell
Since you play in West, you are not playing build which will come with balance patch, so yes, of course you do not need MP increase, noone really does now.
Partially you are right, but before was not problem find even cheaper niche items, because people were checking and posting even stuff where they were not sure if it have really some big value.
Yes there for example 10 pages of currently unsold 5 Grudge + 3 Adrenalin & Spec items, but there are also 4 pages of green items (or worse) of above mentioned combination sold in last 3 days and I am sure there is more sold than AH is displaying in Sales History, because just today there is over 4 pages. Green stuff is sold much more often than Rare and Legendary so I am not sure from where is comming yours:
In which way lol? You want to tell me, that market would have same amount of items without the limit? Of course not, there would be so much more variety across spectrum of items.
Sales History is not really proof of anything else, than items are being sold. For some items you see there 7 pages with sales weeks old, for some other items you see there 5 pages where are only last three days (and not even full). There is no consistency in that display (e.g. display everything in last week or display always 7 pages).
Whole argument “there is more pages of non-sold than sold” is nonsense, these sold things are often just few days old, so if you see there several pages with sales today or last few days, that item is obviously quite demanded = therefore is worth to post it.
this is a good point , people with 2 chars , cant even recieve enough accsessories which are worth anything , to reach that 20 item limit
in the end we are both right perhaps . but the limitation of 20 is for the majority not a problem
especially if you play only a few characters
it hits mostly people with many alts and doing alot of raids and CD
and this is another good point you said
you know for what bards this is really relevant ? for bards which are mains for brel hard
because all the content now , include brel normal
bards and paladins can actually manage without that new spell
that new spell is not changing actual builds , its changing with a skill noone uses , noone uses “ancient core” atm
it results that you have a valid new build you can use , that does not mean it changes every bards build, cause most bards are 4x3 alts
and i doubt most will change accs for that new build, cause it cost pheons, and pheons …and yes im sure you know how players like spending pheons for alts 
Of course it is not problem for such players, but it is not problem for bots as well and consider it as way how to “fix” too many users on AH is just absurd. If is something like that ingame, it should scale with your roster, like that it will have same effect on bots (they will not have high Roster Level or multiple high level characters) even when I doubt there is really any, casual and new players will not even know about it because they dont have what to sell and people who spent money for wide roster would be able to use that and sell their drops. I do not see really any loss on that for anyone.
i think
you misinterpreted how automated programs to to scan the market and auctionhouse works
that programs scan hundrets of diffrent items at the same time , serveral times per second
for cheap or too low valued items by sellers
that programs buy them instantly ( or now just all 10 secs cause we already got that 10 secs restriction aswell because of that programs)
and autmatically set this bought item in the same second after got from mail against to a higher price like a wall, for 3 days
they make a margin of perhaps 1-5% profit
but if you do that hundret thausands times a day
thats alot of gold
and that is why we got that limitation.
that cost the market server ( which is just a program like every other trading program)
alot of recources till to a point where it says , ok its too much data traffic , limit it and that was :
too many useser messages
its like a ddos , just too much traffic - thats why we have that limit
with your roster scaling, got talked several times already about , and got also as positive noticed from CM´s here at the forum
