I just want to know how does it help to restrict players from using converted gold for 3 days and why is it even there in the first place!! , is this going to be lifted any time soon? it is so frustrating.
This is most likely a permanent thing. Roxx said in a interview that this change brought the fraud (for example creditcard chargeback) to near zero.
I’m going to guess its because bots are constantly weeded down separate from major bot ban waves, and if the gold is locked for 3 days, this diminishes the amount of total bot gold that makes it out of the gate because a percentage of them are weeded out daily before being able to trade
Just saw the above comment. That seems to me to be likely the more prominent reason over the one i suggested.
yea… but just imagine:
you see an item you’re looking for… for weeks to finish your gear to stop the 5x3 gatekeeping… ur 50k short on gold…
you want to buy gold… 3 days restriction… you RTM and support the bot because you need the gold NOW and not in 3 days
well played slowclap
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Then i ask my friend to borrow me 50k else i am just unlucky.
Its more upsides than downsides.
lets be real though, if someone is willing to rmt in that situation, theyre going to rmt for the better exchange rate regardless. The percent of times the restriction is going to affect the bots is far greater than the percentage of that scenario playing out is going to happen. I’d bet on that any day lol
It helps them to combat credit card fraud. The three day holding period serves as a buffer. It used to be able to use stolen accounts to basically print infinite free gold. Use their payment info to purchase RC then immediately transfer that gold via the AH to another holding account. This way they have 3 days to detect the fraudulent activity and remove that gold before it makes its way into the economy.
Same deal with stolen credit cards.
It is a massive pain but currently it is a necessary evil until they come up with better backend security measures.
Currently there is no ETA or mention of this being removed.
Just thing like this. You sell something to your customer (consumable) , pick his/her credit card pull the payment and give your goods to them. After they leave the shop they call the bank cancel the payment you received and bam. Get the point? It is not like same as you use your credit card in shops which requires your password ( unless wireless pull ).
i absolutly get the point, why this system was implemented.
i’m just stating the other side of a regular player that want to buy gold for real money
the option to do this legit is there, but it has 2 BIG letdown: way more expensive and you cant use it, when you buy it.
like in real life: when u take a credit, you take it because you need this money at this exact moment to buy/pay something
nobody would take a credit just to have the money… because u maybe yound need it later on
and this is why RMT is so damn popular : /
i think , yeah i get your point, but your example isnt perfect
because if you are really desperate to get a special accs and wait for days/ weeks, why you spend your gold beforehand if you looking every day that its on the market ?
i mean why not hold your gold back and wait ?
also you know which people most likely get frauded on ?
the rmters who gave their account details to rmt sites , and after they already bought gold
as long as you can make money with something there are people who find ways to do it , legal and illegal
in the end the harm for a single players is less hard than for example the frauded ones and ags , because they have to invest time and resources to fix things to prevent things and to make the game playable
noone would play the game if you could get fraud on all the time
and if people tend to do rmt because they cant get something the legal way in a short period , that people are egoistic and only think on themselfs. not that they harm the game for others even more
The 72 hours hold on items purchased ingame is Valve’s idea (and recommended anti-fraud measure).
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- You should prevent trading or gifting of the newly purchased items for at least 72 hours from the time of purchase. This will not impact the majority of your players since most players will use funds and items purchased for themselves while fraudsters must move their fraudulent goods to profit.*
https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/features/microtransactions
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The funny thing is that people on kr usually buy golds with royal crystals, got same value like when you buy golds from bots in eu/na. This 3-day restriction is nonsense, you got maybe like 1/3 of golds worth than rmt players and yet you cant do a shyt for days with that golds, no wonder people rmt
While I agree that there needs to be some restriction preventing chargebacks and other forms of fraud, there should be some way for longtime players to attain a verified or trusted status to bypass the restriction.
For example, if the same credit card has been used for months without any chargebacks or other incidents, it should be marked as trusted and thus funds acquired from Steam via that card should not be restricted. Of course, this would require greater integration between Steam and Lost Ark as the game itself needs a way to check for that Steam verification (Lost Ark doesn’t know which card was used or if it was the same one).
So, from the game client’s perspective, there needs to be some way to verify the Steam account is legitimate and that the funds were from some stable source (card with months of safe transaction history).
We all hate it but it isn’t going anywhere.
Something something combat fraud something something. Nothing to do with Bots.
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