840 epic engraving chest got changed to 40 epic engraving chest after today's maintanance

To be fair I have no idea what any of the Epic books are, I don’t even bother to check. They just get tossed in.

You pick 20 best engraving 1
You pick 20 best engraving 2
You pick 20 best engraving 3
You run out of any need for more engravings because that’s alll your roster needs

Now you have 740 left over books you cannot convert to any other form of value.

Pheon’s even though they are bound will never run into that problem. You’ll always have a use for the extra Pheon.

I’m not saying that this doesn’t have an impact, only that the impact is pretty minimal is all. If anything it even helps out the new player / returning player as it saves them a bit in overall engraving cost.

a roster needs way more than 3 engravings, what are you talking about

Again, ANY player that has been playign this game probably has ALL of the top engravings at +9 already so your point and any player AT end game has the main few at +9 since the books ARE so cheap to buy right away. These books don’t get you the top dog value since you already have those books.

Most people as far as engraving books go is

Grudge
Class

I run a 9 roster all classes unique (no duplicates) and I am pretty sure I don’t use more than 3 or 4 total non class engravings.

I’d check, but you know… G9x0’d mid chaos dungeon.

i guarantee you dont because I am roster level 230, I have 6 chars at 1490, 6 at 1445 and 2 at 1415, I bought a lot of epic books in the past, I ran quests that gave epic selections as rewards on alts for some of the more expensive ones and I dont have “all” of the books that have value either.

pheon were not sellable just sayin

dude

Explain this.

Why do all these battle engravings have value then? According to your logic everything except Grudge would have to be 1g. You make ZERO sense.

This also disqualifies the other guys argument that people have all the epic engravings already. If they did the books wouldnt have the market value they have.

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The ONLY ones I dont have are classes I dont ever plan on playing. But all of the combat books like Grudge, All Out Attack, Precise, KBW, i will almost guarentee you that MOST top end players have these at +9 already since the books were all <40g which made it 800g to get a full 20 banger on.

For those that got the 720 books, congrats, you essentially saved yourself 1k for each class you roll since almost all DPS use Class + Grudge. The other books have value as they open options to swap to a different one but same time, any established player already has most of the Top 3 or 4 combat engravings for DPS already at +9 since they ALL were <50g for a long time.
The ONLY value the books come mainly from the CLASS engraving books and this comes more from people rolling different class since the class engravings vary.

I’d say it’s all the new / returning players but … yeah.

To be very honest I don’t know why they still have any value. I’ve not bought an Epic book from the market in I cannot remember how long. The game used to force feed you bags of books back with like the Narumi race event.

I suppose a few key engravings will spike with class releases, or perhaps we’re underestimating how far behind some players may still be.

The only reason I don’t have every engraving maxed out to Epic isn’t because of Epic books, it’s because of uncommon and rare books.

The ONLY ones I dont have are classes I dont ever plan on playing. But all of the combat books like Grudge, All Out Attack, Precise, KBW, i will almost guarentee you that MOST top end players have these at +9 already since the books were all <40g which made it 800g to get a full 20 banger on.

just stop please, if they did the books wouldnt have market value which they CLEARLY have.

Where did they say they don’t have market value?

Like this is what I still have left in unopened book bags AFTER filling out any Engraving I could ever need.

If you throw an 800 book satchel into that pile it changes literally nothing

Either way you look at it 100 Pheon vs 800 Bound Epic books the 100 Pheon will always have some use to us.

by their argument that people do not need these books?

How can you compare pheons with bound books, for real :X

both have a gold value there is literally no difference in comparing it

They didn’t say that though, they said most people don’t need them. Which is why their market value is low, since demand is low

well congratulations to taking yourself as the prime example, guess that is why people buy books still

I didnt need the pheons either that they sent me and I didnt need to spend them but they said I could and so I did and yolod them on ability stones and got absolutely nothing from it and ended up at -106 and having to pay myself out of something I never needed. Stop taking yourself as proof, the market shows the reality and that is that these books have value to the average player.

I’m just saying the impact (eac offline) of them not meddling around trying to claw these back and probably breaking someone worse is far less than the Pheon Mess.

Those who will benefit most from this are new/returning players and good, those people need some kinda break.

Minimal value, because epic books will certainly not complete an endgame build. Its just a temporary stopgap for buying into legendary books so they should be cheap as it stands.

Purple books have market value, yes but not to the VALUES your pointing out. Any veteran player right now, these books if they had 720 of them would have almost NO VALUE since they are NOT sellable and they already have brought the books prior thus these books don’t help them as they already have all teh books they need. What value do they pose when you can’t use them.

For the new player, the new player doesn’t need 720 books. They need the 20 fo teh class they are using and maybe 80 for 4 engravings for options. Congrats on the benefit for the new player (everyone keeps talking that new players need benefits). I dont care if the new player just saved several thousand gold on these books, its a good thing for them.

But established players get little value out of the books since they will already have most of the good ones and only need the class ones for any new class they are running. And you still only get 20 of that book value, NOT 720.

Since the books are BOUND and unsellable, they do little to affect the market of the books. Sure a few people probably dont have to buy books they need again but books are so cheap and you only need 20 of them ever means very little value actually.

PHEONS on the other hand DO affect the market. If you just gave everyone 60 pheons, people are going to use these pheons to BUY accessories off the market. The two are not comparable.