The concept of pheons is fine but putting it on item that requires rng mainly ability is stones is dumb. I don’t mind spending pheons on accessories because I can control how much pheons I spend for the +/- it offers. However ability stone that cost 10g doesn’t need pheons, its frustrating that I spend almost 14kg on stones cost 10g each.
Pheons in general hurts f2p players.
P.S. rng on stones seems off 75% -65% success rates get more fails than 55-35%
I’m not going to comment on rates, it is what it is, but man do I wish I could roll stones without Pheons. They’re like a dark cloud looming over my gameplay…
exactly and especially if youre gearing alts stones plays a huge role on +/-
Thinking of getting a 77 stone is basically like getting a legendary skin, if not lower ratio. And this system basically has no difference with the skin lootbox, directly(yourself) or indirectly(someone else pay for your gold by crystals) spending real money on something(pheons/skins) to get something you want(a 77 or 79 stone/ legendary skins) with certain chance. Only thing makes cutting stone worse is you have to cut all by yourself while you can always buy legendary skin from AH.
Wondering why so much more complaining about the legendary skin system than the stone, the stone gonna have much much more impact on your character power. Cost less than skins doesn’t change the nature of this system is same with lootboxes.
Pheons on stones is actually stupid. Nobody likes it. Get it out of here.
…lootbox 
Looks like AGS/SG are very selective about what is lootbox and what not is lootbox.
T3 AS requiring so much Pheons is lootbox, and nobody is talking about it. Alt mechanic sucks and fail because of it in Western version.
People with strong Alts (required to not be kicked of the party) are P2W or RMT. The companies are lying to you saying it is F2P-friendly game at some level, and Pheons logic are the “lock” that not allow it.
Pheons the worst thing in the entire game ngl.
I spend almost like 140k gold just to convert it into gems to get pheons for my alts and for costumes, thats a joke if you ask me
AGS/SG have two options (yeah, they have options, they just intentionally don’t care):
Totally agree it’s for real just pain
had to buy pheons again, this makes litteraly no sense, to use the market you need pheons, why the hell you farm gold to buy something then
You literally pay gold + indirect gold (by converting blue crystal from gold).
Pheons is non-sense to block whales/RMTs cuz gold not is an issue for them, so Pheons is highly accessible for them.
Just another bad game design to create a painful and FOMO experience for honest and casual/f2p players
Even when the developer advertise this game as f2p its some what true, everything is accessible in the auction house but it becomes less accessible when they throw in another currency in order to use this function. its dumb
i wish they made a better function for alts besides of just using them to funnel materials to your mains. not gonna lie its kinda getting boring play one character all the time for end game content. and honestly the honing rates/ prices are garbage. even with the honing buff its just gonna be a minor increase. Like we got through the hard part getting to ilvl1460+ but we still have to rely on rng to lvl up alts. its BS