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Hello comrade players,

The thing about community in game (at least in my opinion) - that if you get frustrated how the game is handled you become on the edge. So frustration venting is understandable. Especially when everybody knows game is good just decisions made for our version were a bit of the mark of what players wanted.
For example: new event comes out and its not really good. So majority of people goes in to try it and gets to experience it for first time which results in many people feeling really down or angry.
Remember feelings linger for some time, so after they get off that mess, they go do their dailies (chaos, guardians or so) while still feeling mad. It’s like having ignited fire which just needs fuel to burn stronger. Surrounding environment impacts people feelings and behavior.
Another thing: when we have example of more perfect game (KR and so) it’s easy to spot differences and ask question - why are we getting this treatment and others have that?.
For example: why its enough to play 1 char on KR as f2p (definitely not 6) and you are able to do content on release (at least nm mode).

People have reference to other versions so they can easily spot the differences of treatment. That makes people frustrated and over longer time mad. Forums become toxic or so because of that - Majority of players base are not happy with the treatment we are getting from publisher and the only way they can vent that frustration is through forums.
The lack of communication adds fuel to that too because people feel not heard. Of course its understandable from support guys too - they just do their paid job while not wanting to jump in front of the bus who is already running at amazing speed (who would want to step up willingly when in the first place decisions where not made by them).

Overall:
It all came down to this because here are problems going on and lack of communication between publisher and it’s player base is weak or so its seem (no effective or straight replies where given). Players have reference from other regions and publisher just goes mainly with their own plans over looking at majority feedback. People get frustrated after poor decision making over months so till publisher steps up on addressing issues more publicly or makes drastic changes on approach how game is handled nothing will change on forum state.

Fast example: class releases - they done it once per two months. Outrage is starting to creep up. How they could at least manage it a bit better? - make a in game or forum vote on class which people would want to be released next over deciding yourself because its going to be players playing it not publisher.

SO guys if you want changes to the current situation my advise would be:
If you agree that something must change with our version of publisher (like communication) then no matter if you partly defend or in full frustration mode, we have to be united a bit more. Because right now we are split in two groups which are full mode complaining (understandable) and some who are on copium (understandable because game is not bad). Player versus player forum won’t change a lot, it just distract us from real problems in the game. So lets bring out problems which we could unite as community because only then we will be heard.

P.S Biggest power is not always leadership but united nation (player base in this case) because what is the country without its people?.
EDITED: Guys lets collect opinions and try to get attention from publisher. To do so i put up a vote on feedback → Small change about summer skins

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Grass is always greener on the otherside
I’m willing to bet the KR version is just as flawed as ours in it’s own ways, but the shills on twitch ain’t gonna mention that

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Understandable. Twitch streamers has to keep image so they don’t want to fall on developers radar because that could impact them.
Kr version could be flawed too, i m not saying its masterpiece but it has better situation then us.
At least i think perfect example of that - when West version came out, we got a lot of people coming from KR or other version to our version and at this point majority of them went back. Even some streamers are back playing there. They only come back here to do some content because it attracts more audience.

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I like how white knights read the entire post just to target the one little controversial part while ignoring everything else

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its opinion. Each has their own thoughts on it. Both can be right, both can be wrong. “White knights” or “criers” doesn’t matter what we need to do is find common problems, agree on them and try to push it out to publisher as one. Disagreements gives publisher leeway to solve things slower because we are fighting each other at forums.

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I think you misunderstood, I’m definitely not white knighting, I’m trying to say that the KR version is not some prmoised land, it’s the same game as ours with more bells and whistles on, AKA , a polished turd

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Nah we can’t unite when players are so uneducated.

This is how players mentality work when they come on the forums.

Player “we want more skins”

AGS/SG " here’s yozz jars with tons of skins!"

Player “no we don’t want that”

AGS/SG “ok have these two skins and a mokoko skin”

Player “they ugly give us more skins”

How can AGS/SG ever win? damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

Players who post are really dumb me included.

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Not everybody is like that. If you are educated you can try to redirect everybody in simple manner. Like i did just now (made a vote on summer skins → Small change about summer skins)
If you want to start solving problems you have to pick one and try it.
About improved conversation it would be different story if it went like this:

Player “we want more skins”

AGS/SG " here’s yozz jars with tons of skins!"

Edited: Player “Oh, nice, that’s great. Just one thing here - we are okay with it as long as you can adjust the prices because it’s unreasonably high”.

Edited: AGS/SG “We will look into it” ( it would be checkmate for AGS i think because players would agree but they want prices lower so it would be on them to lower prices or not release it. And if they released without adjusting it would be reasonable to get backlash)

After that there could be a lot of options like: Jar release with adjusted prices, no jar release but mokoko skins and so on.

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that poll won’t do anything except entertain people for a few hours.

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It could be useless. But without trying nothing will happen. If we get quite a huge number of people it could be a good claim to player wishes. It doesn’t cost me money or much time to do it anyway and it gives players some kind of freedom to state their opinion. We will see how it goes and if we get a bit of people vote, later will make post addressing it with results of what people really want. Overall we can see on which side of skin problem player base is.

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:rofl: you smoked too much weed man.

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it’s illegal in my country but not going to lie - lived in Netherlands for few years so ye… :smiley: