About supports and how they play

People don’t like to be lectured. I mean do you? Probably not.

When you’re demanding people to play the game your way, that is your specific style. How is this confusing?

If you cry when your mom makes chicken nuggets b/c you think she didn’t cook them right? then she might tell you if you want to be a cry baby about how she made it, then make your own nuggies. This is b/c you like the nuggies a specific way, but still expect your mom to make it. So why don’t you just make it yourself??

This is exactly what already happens if you’re matchmaking. This is also why people who don’t want this make their own group, you know b/c they understand they can’t control the playstyles of other people who don’t fit their values.

I dunno how you’re confused. You can’t truly be this dense to think that people will just do what you want them to do… I mean you either are trolling or just acting ignorantly.

yea i do, if the advice is good i will consider it and mby change smth to make my gameplay and orther smoother :slight_smile:

Damn i will say it again

Asking support to support is my specific style? Asking dps to dps is a specific style?
Asking firefigher to put out the fire is specific? like dude what are u on? these examples can go forever and u will still say its some1 specific style? Guess what supports are ment to support XD even in their name. “support”

If u go for example on your main. lets assume its dps. on A raid. Ppl will want you to do dps? or to do what and its not anything specific style. If ppl ask you to use destruction on valtan is their specific style or its general how this raids work

You are complaining about how a support should be supporting based on your gaming style/values.

Stop trying to change your narrative now that people are pointing out you just got a control issue.

The big problem is people are still expecting supports to primarily be healers instead of Damage Enhancers.

You don’t take a support in lost Ark for healing unless you are pretty bad at dodging mechanics or want to save a few hundred gold per attempt on potions. You bring a support because they increase the total dps of a 4 man team by a significant amount more than a 4th dps would.

That said, support healing is great for people who don’t play perfect, and lets be honest very few of us play perfect. It can heal up chip damage, and was essential on pre-legion raid encounters as is seen in Argos, specifically p3.

U right I hate team up with bard never use health buffs until you are about too daed ended up using all my posts players are so stupid…

Yes, I want support not giving me heals when im full hp
I want Dps when there is time for dps
Ur right when i see that healing circle when boss is stagered and team is full hp im screaming and tossing things :smiley:

make your own group then lol, wow so hard i know

i mean it’s clear, you want people to play like you yet dont want to make your own group so you can moderate their play style

sure, heals shield are great when they are needed. we all love them
But as i said seeing bards using heal when all are full hp or even better using heal when all are 100%hp and shielded is just smth else for me.
But i have my lesson from this forum that asking supports to support is my specific gameplay XD

Nothing more to comment here

Tbh yeah i agree lots of supports dont play optimally or straight up wrong. But they are needed and due to the lack of them we cant get to choose and pick.

Yeah I do agree. Especially during chaos dungeons lol…

I play a support and just do whatever I want. I grind every day. I don’t want to try hard anymore and I just want to play casually when I farm content through my daily routine. Just do 2 guardians and dungeons. Play like usual I don’t need to be a MVP God just top the party and quit to do other things. I’m not going to spend effort for something I cleared hundreds of times. Just do the minimum call it a day and explore the world be it other games, going outside, or doing a hobby you like.

Then OP isn’t addressing you, since you must be pretty low ilvl if you aren’t doing legion raids or Argos at least. He just pointed out actual mistakes that supports apparently do.

I myself spam my attack buffs on Pally when clearing mobs before boss fight, just to get my identity up and because DPS one shot those mobs anyway, but during boss fight you should rotate.

Other 3 are also good points.
Something that OP didn’t mention, there probably are also supports that have bad upkeep on their synergy skills (+10% party damage to boss).

I think they are not main supports then. The longer you play a class the more you will notice, what you can do better.

Komendant
Main pala also playing bard here.

What I been noticing playing DPS is that other support players dont do NOTHING at all as supports no matter what dungeon LOL. I’m serious, its like “Im support so lets gooooooo just carry me”

TBH a lot of support are just ALTS, ppl HAVE NO idea how and what to do!

The same was with me when I started to play paladin and that pushed bard to 1400.
I was thinking that it was easy just shield and sometimes heal but in reality it was a completely different story.

PPL dont know what to with support and DONT want to learn this is the reality!

That’s the sad truth, there are plenty of freshly rushed supports that seems to not know what they’re doing. I was in Deskaluda raid with Paladin that did not use any awakening nor Godsent Law nor Holy Protection nor even Blessed Aura but was a sole follower of Holy Area, I was starting to think he came with his Chaos Dungeon build but suddenly wild Holy Protection appeared without reason to it…


I will say, guys, play how you want your supports but if you’re in Vykas HM on ilvl team and there are still puddles before swamp I (as pala main and bard alt) give your buff abilities the Crow of Judgement.


As for topic in general since everyone nitpicked but nobody really shared:

My perfect rotation for start of the legion raids is Awakening, Wrath of God, Light of Judgment (if meter still needs filling), launch Blessed Aura, rotate attack buff with Heavenly Blessing, Holy Protection when major attack patterns happens and mokokos still stand in the way and Godsent Law under ass of very courageous grudge-mayhem-cursed doll zerker who is stuck charging his attack in the face of next boss’ attack. In meantime, Light shock for Bleed, Executor’s Sword and Holy Sword to smuggle some dmg/counter and that’s it, plenty to do as Paladin in Legion Raid.

Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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Nope, I usually don’t pay attention to others, I only care about my own survival. And the only Pally friend I have, sadly is a DPS Pally main.

As a Bard main I usually try to be very conscious about no overlapping buffs, and use my awakening on every cooldown after getting Judgement to proc (Unless there’s a special occasion like Vykas G3 for example). I also pay attention if my party needs more heals or more buffs.

BUT

I did notice with my Pally alt that I do often Overlap buffs or forget to us them when they’re on cooldown, but that’s because I’m still not 100% used to play pally as I only created it like 2 or 3 weeks ago, and only recently managed to change from a full spec build to a full swiftness build.

My guess is that most people don’t know how Supports work and the decision making behind using them, they just watch a guide on Maxroll, copy it and just play without knowing or caring what the skills do and how/when to use them.

For me is the other way around, I thought Pala was easier than bard, but it plays completly different.

The lack push inmunity on Pally doesn’t make sense to me, like Pally is melee and Bard is ranged, so one would think Pally would have some or even more Push inmunity skills. Also filling the identity bar takes a bit more time unlike Bard, so the fact that that the awakening doesn’t fill the bar unless you hit the enemy unlike Bard’s is bs.

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L0KI agree ! Pala is more difficult to play than bard!

About Pala meter is more easy. Check your Faith tripods also wealth runs. Its more easy with pala for meter