So I was doing a low level abyssal dungeon (Rhondel number 2), and someone wasnt skipping cutscenes. Not a big a deal, cutscenes are the most epic in that dungeon anyway. We are doing decent on all the fights.
We get to final fight, 1 person threatens to leave if person doesnt skip. Does a count down. Being dramatic, especially for something low level. So this person doesnt get what they want. Instead of leaving they just dead weight so we can’t win the fight. For hours. They move enough to not get kicked and just sit there in a corner of the fight. Literally told us to beg after a certain point and I was laughing out of disbelief. Literally told me to beg for him to play like he owned my time.
We (3/4) want to complete the dungeon. This one person wont leave. The warn mechanic gives the feedback “The player is not in a valid area”. So you can’t warn or kick the person. So we just wipe 5 times and then just sit there til maintenance waiting for them to leave.
if 3/4 of the players want to continue, and this one person wants to throw a fit, we should be able to kick or appeal to a GM to do so. I shouldn’t get held hostage in my game cuz one person wants to throw a fit and we have to give into them. They literally told us to beg them. They were acting like a child tyrant and I really shouldn’t have to deal with this if everyone wants them out. Fix the warn mechanic. Create a party kick vote in abyssal dungeons.
We stayed there as much to waste his time for being obtuse in the whole situation. We knew about vote abandoned, but we wanted to continue and were having fun. 1 player shouldnt be able to hold a group a hostage like that. We should just be able to kick them and replace like most games. Rewards arent even given til the final fight anyway.
Lots of games have join in progress options/refill options. The system as is basically allows anyone who decides to be obstinent to be validated and punish others for their childish behavior. Players should have the autonomy to handle the situation in various ways like removal and recruiting another player rather than just a disban.
i noticed the same thing with a person standing in the “maintenance circle” where you can swap out consumables and repair.
i think this might be an oversight and definetly needs to be fixed.
also im glad i havent come across people like this, i hope everyone of you reported him.
If you are willingly not voting to leave, or failing the Abortion Vote on Purpose, you are equally holding yourself as anybody else “Hostage” inside the Dungeon.
except that person will keep doing this exact behavior and causing people to have start dungeons over because he thinks he can tell people what to do. As a group of 3 we agreed that wasting his time for acting the way he did was worth it.
My point is there should be consequences for players like him for trying to ruin everyone’s time, or solutions for player groups to handle the situation. We invented a way to punish him which was not giving him what we wanted. My preference would be to kick and move on. Being the bigger person and vote abandon allows toxic players like him to continue to ruin the experience for players enjoying their game for not skipping. Especially in such early on content.
We used what we had to create a punishment we agreed to. Point is we should just be able to vote kick him, he had the problem, he should have to start over, not all of us.
I reported him for sure and told the others too. Not sure if they did or not. We ended up talking about what snacks we grabbed and what shows we were watching. It was kinda nice, but I still want a vote kick option cuz it was just so petty. He still thought he was vindicated up until maintenance which blew my mind that he was willing to die on “Every cutscene needs to be skipped or I will dead weight”.
except he literally said “If you dont skip I am leaving” “Good luck doing this without me” “BEGGGGGGGGG” and other very incriminating stuff. We literally said “hes not doing anything cuz someone didnt skip the cutscene” “wow I can’t believe he wont help” “can you please leave if you arent gonna do anything”
Honestly if the game punishes us in this situation, I would honestly just quit at that point. If they gonna let people be toxic like that and punish people who didnt wanna give him what he wanted cuz he we dont have a vote kick option then its not a community I want to be a part of. The other two people were very chill and I added the one on my server to my friends list. We had a fun conversation despite the debby downer throwing his tantrum.
I have no regrets in how I acted and I would do it again. His complaint was unfounded and his response was absurd. I made two friends out of it. I want a way to resolve it that disincentivizes that kind of behavior.