AGS needs to implement a population control

I think it’s a war that they will never win, everyone says that all the big MMOs are infested with bots and the truth is they exist, but in this game it’s already another level.
While you eliminate one 3 more appear.
Maybe shutting down account creation or limiting character creation for a period of a month as a test might help embark on a solution.

Who knows at this point, for my is a dead game.
For me it is a game that will not last long, I actually liked the game but the only reason that prevented me from leaving it was to think about the time and effort that I had dedicated to it but once I was free I am afraid to return

I’ve lost the will to play ngl. I only do 2 clowns a week now. Gatekeeping on another level. The ratio of an actual party to bus is stupidly off.

You need an active bot banning infrastructure not just banning thousands every week AFTER they caused damage to the economy or players experiences.

They just need to copy-paste more cosmetics from KR to fuel their profits because they are losing a ton from the constant RMT of gold before all their customers quit. Many games have battlepasses and business models that just revolve around cosmetics, LoL, Valorant, Fortnite, CSGO etc.

Just throwing bound materials doesn’t resolve the problem itself though. You throw all these bound materials players still need gold to quality tap, hone, craft, or do any research in their strongholds. You can’t just keep pulling gold from the game. That’s what AGS is doing and that is why you’re seeing more and more “how do I make gold” posts from new players.

If I didn’t get in at the start and had to start from scratch I wouldn’t play at all. I can’t get into anything, learning parties are scarce at best and take forever to fill even if you make your own, I don’t want to do chores for 5 weeks selling all my stuff to just ride another bus for another stupid goat demon, just to rinse and repeat for the next 4 months because until I make it to 1460 and somehow manage to learn the raids I don’t get to make any money outside of a lucky drop. And EVEN that is becoming harder and harder.

The frog tanked book prices making many of them almost worthless, unless you roll a high quality BiS accessory you are lucky to get 5k at best, it costs 100k minimum to gear a DPS properly with even decent quality to meet the stat requirements for many builds and that doesn’t even include buying books or BC for pheons.

This game is for the top end players, time whales and money whales. If you can’t keep up or didn’t start at the same line as everyone else, I hope you got patience and tenacity because that’s what it will take to get started.

Imagine if the control actually works. We could see gold changes to be reverted back. Regular players dont need em, but new ones certainly will.

Well im not the management but i would just scale the gold requirements after implementing more bound materials into the game. Omnium stars should have some internal pity meter because if its TRULY RNG, then it could take months/years to get a dam omnium star from Moake or Anguish Island which sucks.

It already feels disgusting when you farm on 6 alts for materials for a few taps and all u got is +10% pity, see you next week.

Yes the game is a KR grind but it wont be successful in NA if they dont atleast make it enjoyable enough to milk the playerbase with existing assets from KR.

Like any game, whales with a brain will quit once they see less real players they can flex their ego on, only the truly addicted gambling addicts who play like 5 gatcha games and LA is in their rotation will stay to spend money.

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The fundamental problem is that we’re now changing the fundamentals of the game, you start tweaking numbers around and its gets messy fast. AGS only publishes the game and they’ve been pretty adamant about that fact. So changing set requirements that are designed to put the player at a certain pace won’t be done. They might just pull gold, but I highly double they’ll turn around and say “well we pulled gold so we’ll bump the chaos material drop by 25% and also they drop Oreha fusion now too”

Yes unfortunately with how management is handling this stuff…im just gonna enjoy the game until i dont and move on lol.

AGS should reason with SG on how this will affect both their profits cuz its about money and bots are eating up a ton of their profits.

I just want every player to do the endgame content to make gold/progress, everything before legion raids should just a be solid MMORPG campaign experience. But bots are abusing and amassing so much gold before endgame content which shouldnt happen.

There’s no way that’s a proper BiS arti engraving, that looks like its similar to many of our Relics where they seem really good but the combo isn’t quite right so they end up being dirt cheap. There’s tons of examples like it on our own auction house just in Relic instead of Ancient.

Here’s one more example. These are the Barrage Enhancement book prices.
You’ll notice that the purples actually have good enough value. Because it’s not farmed to oblivion by bots

Unfortunately, AGS doesn’t listen to any of your opinions or suggestions, or the game wouldn’t be as messy as it is today.

Shhhhhhh. Hush my son, we shall save this game. In the name of Light River, we pray.

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Bumping cuz we need this and roxx has to see it

Bumping again. @Roxx pls acknowledge

Are you aware that next tier accessories, not sure what they will cael it here, will have upto 6/3 engraving right?

So basically that acc you are claiming BIS is 200 gold is somewhat similar to 4/3 relic acc and I am sure you could find alot of cheap relic accs for 4/3 here as well.

6/3 accs with high qualities still go for alot in KR server as well.

Yes. And a 5/3 is still valuable. A 5x3 build in kr is pretty much a minimum and very attainable.

With how things are going for the western region, less people are playing, less accessories in the market, higher prices even with relic.

Edit: in addition to the less players, theyre scattered through out multiple regions unlike RU/JP/KR

this relies on the fact that player numbers are increasing day by day but this isn’t necessarily the case.
and limiting players per server does NOTHING to fix or resolve the issue with the market/ah as they are REGION wide not server wide.

what does this have to do with the price of chips? API and population control are not linked in anyway shape or form. At this point we have been asking for api access for 9 months and we’ve had nothing apart from “this is good feedback we’ll file it accordingly”
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Not really on population, more on bot control. The recent AH gem situation caused by bots is a prime example.

Control the bots, and we can finally utilize the api and avoid another AH incident. Because lets face it, you cant stop em from making thousands of steam accounts.

Bumping until @Roxx sees the post