We’re at an impasse then because I can see a lot of posts in this thread agreeing on the opposite. See how that works?
I didn’t mention what my own experience was and nowhere did I say “they’re easy” or something similar. My point is work at improving and your time will reduce. It sounds like you just want everything handed to you.
I’ve cleared everything available up to 1340 with PUGs (Chaos, GR, Abyss), so I don’t understand your point. It’s already possible.
They are the original endgame content before Abyss even existed. Trust me when I say Smilegate takes them quite seriously. Things like Achates, Alberhastic, Dark Yoho, Velganos, etc. will be incredibly difficult compared to some of the Abyss content. They’re not supposed to be a gimme and your assertion that they’re supposed to be done fast is completely bogus.
What a silly thing to say. If they have more health then you’re engaging with mechanics for longer. Of course that makes them more difficult. If we see three instances of spirit bomb during Alberhastic rather than one, that’s two more times we have to do the mechanic properly. It’s not even a point for debate.
At this point it’s clear that you are not reading, just try to flex with guardian clears.
The topic is not about nerfing mechanics it’s about reverting their hp to make them less time consuming.
Tbh, I do not even bother to explain again because your points were answered in the topic already, many times, you were just lazy too read them. Now, tell me, is 10 min to read those too long?
However , just one thing: No, more hp is not equal to more difficulity… Bullet sponge is not mechanic.
Also: the topic is not asking to nerf the hp, but revert it to the normal so they can be farmed as intended.
Yeah… some Abyss dungeon. No shit mate that they are harder than the Abyss dungeons before them. They are on higher tier.
Please, stream it where you do it under 8 min. Let’s say: Tytalos with a pug. That guardian is not too hard and I assume you too are around 1000ilvl. You have to do it in matchmaking. You also have to do it on the first try. If you manage that… let me gift you a small package on Steam.
I will give you an apprentice pack if you manage to do it in time for first try.
However, I expect the same if you fail. Deal? Cause if you are not sure enough to do that, that means, we are right about them being too time consuming. I’m up for this deal.
You said they are fine as they are and not time consuming at all. He is only in Raid level 2 which shouldn’t be too hard but has a wipe mechanic so you actually can not faceroll him in better gear (I assume you are around 1000ilvl too).
So show me. Kill him on the first try under 8 min. Cause you know… these guardians are for material farm and meant to be killed on daily basis on more characters.
That means you said, you are fine with the time they are consuming right now. I didn’t even ask you to do that on each of your character, just on one to prove me wrong that it is indeed only takes 8 min for 1 kill a day.
Why not him? What ilvl are you? Basicly, you have to do him too in that time, cause you said, they are fine. That means him too and he is supposed to be farmed too. Does it matter if I picked him?
You can not do it after you said:
So? You said that…what now? Is there any problem with my deal? It’s funny when you people are start stating things like this with big face and now you can not prove yourself right.
So, are you up for the challenge? If I would say something like you, I would say yes.
So by doing or not doing one guardian we can generalize that to all guardians. I find it confusing since the thread is about all guardians, but you pick a specific guardian to prove a point.
You are trying to talk yourself out of this. What ilvl are you? Yes, I picked a guardian, cause he is a guardian. You said is yourself:
Now, stop bullshiting and answer already. What’s the problem with that after you said that? Give me a reason why you can not do that after saying something like that.
So? Cause as I said, he is a LOW ilvl guardian. Yeah, he has mechanic, but you were fine with the 50% + hp on him, so…? Prove your point you are right and do him under 8 minute with a pug and recieve your gift from me.
You said it, that it’s our problem if we can not do it. So show me, how it can be done with a pug without consuming too much time for that reward.
Or you want to be the example here for talking bit yet failing hard and not knowing what you are talking about? You even got a Steam gift for proving yourself right. I’m only asking you to do what you said you can do. Basicly: free gift for you.
Nah , I do not even ask him to do those on the required ilvl, I’m fine on whatever ilvl is he now to kill Tytalos.
He can not downgrade a gear on himself, but if he sais his ilvl, we can talk about other guardians too. I’m still up on my deal with him.
I’m up for this too, if he is around this ilvl. I’m still up for my deal. Clear it with a pug under 8 minutes on first try and I delete the whole topic and gift him the pack.
You can’t increase the time wasted on the content without increasing the reward. This content is fun, but not worth doing. I just skip it hard it because is a waste of time.
And is pretty weird some people just have an ego on something like this, as the game is good for them, so should be good for everyone. AGS and Smile don’t want people skipping content or leaving the game. The time wasted for no reason on these fights can be used on other things in the game.
It can be cleared if you get lucky with randoms, but It’s about that, getting lucky. Just cleared Helgaia in matchmaking on ilvl with an alt in 6min 22s. But I had a previous try (the first on that character) where I couldn’t finish it and party gave up.
My point is… I believe we’re missing the point with the Tytalos demonstration.
“If the guardians take more then 8min for you to beat that is a YOU problem.”
Ravbar just wants to create mayhem just as Kakul-Saydon would want
But let’s be honest… 6min 22 because someone was overgeared and…you got lucky. Helgaia is not even one of the most problematic here because of the HP pool.
Tl.dr: Nothing wrong with reverting the changes, the decent challenge will stay.
i like how you completely ignore points that you cant argue with
Edit: you also still didn’t say anything about why do you think hp got upped, while we lack only catch-up buff that increases atk
