You like to reference other versions, like they have less hp, faster dying guardians, right? Just now i did some comparing runs to do actual testing. You can see gear and stats, build and engravings are also kinda similar. I hope screens speak for themselves. Can do even videos if you think its photoshooped
I REALY want to see what arguments you have. Maybe you gonna say that ru also had AGS increasing hp pools for their guardians?
I can also do 1302gs run on our server when i get the gear, for tests to be closer. And also, i had mokoko buff on ru server, that gives extra dmg
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[Miriey] Why do you troll here so much and why are you so annoying? We hear your opinion and let others to speak as well. You are just spamming it here.
I have no idea why do you even care about T1 and T2 guardians if you are already T3 and you dont play alts. So where is logic.
where is logic in asking to revert changes, that werenât even been done?
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And what exactly is the original state? In KR t1/t2 guardians got HP-buffed.
Itâs funny, because nobody can answer the simple question, where the 50% are coming from. It seems like a fictional value, just do have something to argue about.
What if the HP was only buffed by 10%. Will you be satisfied if they nerf them by 10% then, if that is the original state?
No, it doesnât. You donât have to run multiple chars.
yep
Why lol i swear some people just want everything handed to them the guardians are not hard you just gotta learn them 10mins is not a lot of time twice a day is 20mins you can also solo them if 20mins a day is to much for you might as well find a new game
I think theyâre confused. The original issue people took offense to was the NA/EU versions were HP nerfed and thus made drastically easier. Everyone pleaded with AGS to not change our version of the game from the other regions and luckily they listened to this feedback. Now theyâre trying to make out that our version is somehow 10x the HP of the other regions.
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Ya, according to my little experiment, hp is the same
They literally are meant to be LFR WoW bosses.
10 min, twice a day, on 3-4 characters, factoring in PUG fails wasting 9-15 minutes into that, is 1-3 hours per day.
For some people who work, they donât want to play 1-2 hours of their game time doing Guardian Raids for materials.
These arenât meant to be end game content, theyâre meant to be daily material farming methods.
This would be no different than them requiring you kill twice as many mobs for the same amount of materials in Chaos Dungeons. An unnecessary increase in time, with no increase in effort or rewards.
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So logically they should play fewer chars. Thatâs the obvious solution.
If you donât have the time, donât play as much chars, itâs simple.
Imagine that: For a player who only plays one character, this is perfectly fine.
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Blackfang avatar as well please. 
Except the game is not designed that way⌠Honestly all of your arguements were answered here above.
Also, one of you got the chance to prove himself right and stream it as he does a guardian with a pug under 8 min on first try and recieve a steam gift for it. Basicly for nothing else but proving his point to be right. He went missing right after that.
Yes, people who work and has no all day to play do not want to go for guardian raids that long cause they do not provide the right amount of reward for your time.
So, you will either have these guy like that and no one will do that in the right mind for nothing. At least, for me itâs not even worth on my alt kill one, cause in that time I clear a whole island and get more material and skip t1 âŚ
Want a dead content? Cause thatâs how you get a dead content⌠Also, many more reasons which are already explained and talked about here.
I will not repeat myself over and over again, cause the irony is strong here: You guys have no problem to waste time on useless guardians but reading for 10 min is too much of a struggle for you it seems. God, the ironyâŚ
No please, keep Guardians like they are right now.
I do not understand this points, you play to have fun. Guardians being challenging is fun.
I do not want to join on my main or alts and kill every Guardian in 2-3 min.
And yes, iâve played on Rusia before and iâm already in T3 with my main.
is there a middle ground here in this discussion? I can see both arguments for and against. I personally rather have the guardians be âdoneâ with more quickly. It would simply be more time efficient for me running 5 alts now. Guardians are atm rather annoying, not difficult.
It just takes longer and there is more room for errors for people who dont know mechanics.
But what if instead of 50% more HP, can we reduce it to 25%. Both sides donât fully get what they want but there is a compromise here.
Just here to vent and call the 10mn guardian crew a bunch of clowns. Itâs full of sunday pugs, I have 200+ ilvl compared to content. Donât use pots, donât use revive. Iâve been trying to do guardians for the past 2 hours, havenât finished a single one. Even premades canât get carried. All revives gone by 4mn. By 8 Iâm alone on the boss.
You guys are clowns, I want to do island and content, not get frustrated for hours because regular people cannot deal with what you call âeasyâ. Even with -50% hp they will be hard for most people.
CluelessâŚ
Ok iâll bite.
You say play fewer characters, in a game completely balanced around playing multiple alts, but even if they played fewer characters.
What is their motivation to strugglebus on annoyingly long guardian raids, when they could just knock out Chaos Dungeons on 4 characters in half the time and get twice the reward?
I like how you completely ignore proof that ru server has same guardian hp as ours.
The game is not designed to be played with only one character, or what exactly do you mean?
Then please link me the post where that is stated, because otherwise I must have overread the memo when I created my first character, that I have to create a least 3 characters, otherwise I cannot play the game as it is designed?
And sorry to say that, but irony is really strong within your posts too, because you are already repeating yourself every time, but that doesnât strengthen your point of view.
PS: and no, not all my arguments have been answered, nobody can say where this shady 50% HP-buff is coming from. Really. Nobody. Not even you as it seems.
Edit:
Because they like the fights and not playing FOMO?
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Not sure what your gear situation is lookin like, but Iâve only ever struggled once with a guardian raid all the way up to t3, and that was achates, and only because i play melee.
guardian raids are cake after you take 1 or 2 attempts to learn what they do, and know when youre able to put in damage, and when you have to stop to dodge/preform mechanics.
to me it just sounds like you suck, and need to get good.
if your party knows what to do in relation to the guardian youâre fighting, and they are just an average player in terms of dps output, guardians take an average of 4-8 minutes. its when you suck that they end up taking a lot longer.
idk what this 50% hp buff youre talkin about is, but if youre just gonna complain about difficult content rather than learn how to conquer it, weâre just gonna get babied nerfed content. everything will be faceroll easy, and then whats the point of doing anything at that point.
quite literally get good. russia has gotten nerfed content because they suck.
either get good, or do lower tier content and be content with that, or quit the game.