Another Support Privilege is Disgusting post

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i did almost the same with my last Paladin.

However this post is not all BS, because for 1st abyssal raids and Legion Raids in Normal mode, have a 4x3 is not really what’s gonna change anyway.

But with the “easyclicking” we have with ark pass, xpress event and such, you have 2 engravings 1475 sups, and honnestly, i would’nt mind a strict minimum engraving on a normal valtan or argos, event Vykas normal, but starting from 1445 to 1475+ i find quite normal to gear the char properly (3x3/4x3 with the right engraving are far more than ok).

And i also wanted to say that EU/NA community seems to have surfed on the gigachad wave on engravings and gear (see the swarms of post about 5x3 “needed” for clown…) but if you want your character ultra minmaxed it’s your choice, dps will go high numbers get mvp, etc… but that just make the content easy, that is far from being required to clear it.

Dont event think support main are thinking the same way you do. some does, but i bet a lot are sometimes raging cuz they spent a lot to get Drops of Ethers as 4 of 5th and 90% of dps players dont even bother to go and take it when it drops.

5x3 to have almost nobody taking benefit of it ? thanks but no thanks.

Anyway, the one and only rule will prevail, whatever forum post, whine or anything. if you dont like it, dont take it in your raid, or dont join a raid with that kind of support, as you would do for dps.

And if you’re mad because you can’t find support, just build one, the lack of support is mostly because a LOT (most) of players have a 6roster without any in it, so more dps on the market and the support rate is going down.

No judgment, just probably a fact (i’m not 100% but i think i’m probably right)

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that’s something I don’t understand like they could release classes with 1 eng for sup and other for dps so we would have more options and main sups can do solo content (and no, judgement pala it’s not what I mean).

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The whole, “if there were more support options would fix the problem” isn’t true. Putting MORE support options wont change all that much. Just look at other games that have MULTIPLE support options (with classes that CAN do a dps spec OR a support spec just as well) and they ALSO suffer from support issues. People dont like to play support, plain and simple. This fact is never going to change that the majority of players ONLY want to play DPS since its effects are NOTICABLE.

At least with LA, you CAN run with zero supports since you can heal with pots (which is a lot of the cases people want a support to not spend money on potions).

But the mindset is never going to change even if you added more supports to the game, there is always going to be a support shortage.

I played wow for 9 years as a healer, there was always a healing & tank shortage in every group the entire time. Both of these queues were near instant while DPS group queues were decently long. This despite multiple classes having a healing option to run.

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I don’t get it either.

I guess back in the early days when there wasn’t really raid content it didn’t seem like a big deal (since end game was guardians).

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I have a 1400 swiftness bard with correct combat stats, 3x3 engravings (DS, Awakening, and HA) and level 5 gems and I still can’t get accepted into parties. What support privilege are we speaking of here?

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What server do you play on? Are you doing Akkan?

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I’m not gonna lie.

I can clear valtan and vykas on that pally easily, with those exact engravings and rainbow stats.

It’s not even a problem.

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this guy malding because supports always ingna sorc > surge DB on their buff rotation :joy: hes just malding over MVP :joy: :joy: :joy:

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Congrats, you’re an experienced player?

Good job for proving my entire point wrong with one singular experience.

I bow to your existence.

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I’ve never once complained about support shortage buddy. I play two supports and am a DPS main. I didn’t join the lobby the Paladin was in because I’d rather run with a DPS in that slot than a useless support that can’t provide buffs or shields at proper intervals to smooth out the run.

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Then whats the purpose of this post? As if this guys will just stand there and do nothing, or die right away without even trying to do his role…

Imagine this kind of “alt support” is hated and gatekept, what do you think will be the impact to those who dont main support?

Or maybe you are the one who wanted to get carried by a gigachad support?

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My point is that people are abusing the support shortage by making these poorly built supports that offer no real benefit in raids and people feel like they NEED support when really it’s not that hard to just go in with a party full of DPS. I have no problem running a raid full DPS. I am a DPS main that also plays a Paladin and a Bard that are both built to offer enough buff uptime and healing/shields to support the party properly. I spent my resources to do it because of the support shortage and wound up enjoying the classes. I don’t understand what’s so hard about anyone else doing the same. It’s not an expensive class to gear at all.

Get off your high horse with this “get carried by a gigachad” bs insult. I run most of my raids in statics or with guildies. It’s not too much to ask that the few I do pug are not wasting my time since I do my best not to waste theirs.

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Dude, all these post are starting to become annoying.

It’s a shame that they can just don’t invest in their characters and still make it work, but if you want to change that PLAY A SUPPORT.

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You dont even know if this character is his alt or if the guy is willing to swipe just to gear up his character. He might be one of the F2P andies. You posting this just to get an attention “hey, im a gigachad with full of this and that”.

You start from being like this character and crawl your way up and nobody POSTED anything like what you did.

You’ve been carried once and stop this BS gatekeeping.

Then why post this? You can just simply ignore this and go on your pug and get carried.

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I guess no heals, but if they can alternate attack buffs, shield well, and do mechs, it’s a gain lol xD

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that guys is clearly a new player, probably hear about the supp shortage and wanted an “easy life”
be thankfull that ppl actually take their time to join the game quite late

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vykas succubus isnt new player. If it’s new player I don’t really care

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support has a high ceiling & low floor, and that so many people are saying it doesn’t have a high ceiling is all-telling about why there are so few good supports

even a simple fight like kung, most bards:

  • don’t hold guardian tune for the ice projectile

  • don’t build meter optimally

Most other encounters have far more encounter-specific and comp-specific ability usage than a simple fight like kung, yet most bards still can’t do two simple, obvious things.

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This is when you need to point out their mistakes because it matters.

As a paladin in Kunge: I often kite the orbs and grab aggro. I know it is impossible sometimes, especially with a taunt class like Gunlancer and Destroyer. But it helps. I also try to position myself every time slightly 45 degrees cone of the boss’s face for the counter.

This Paladin is 1430 doing Normal Valtan and Vykas. As a support learn him evolve and figure out what he is doing wrong… but looking at the title I’m sure he is somewhat confident with skill rotations and building meter for Blessed Aura.

Advanced gameplay is something you and I learn throughout raiding adventures in Lost Ark. This is what I learned when I’m an endurance build 1370 bard struggling in P3 Argos all the way to Vykas HM getting lucky until I’m full swiftness. Now Brel ready with my 4/3 :slight_smile:

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my point is that IT DOES NOT MATTER support gear as long as the support knows what is he doing… supports are VERY efficient classes AND IT NEEDS TO BE THAT WAY, only 10% of the population is willing to play the role of SUPPORTING YOU so be grateful there is someone in the mood to HEAL YOUR AZZ, be content with it and S.T.F.U

I wan too see all this losers doing all pure dps brel/brel hard, akkan etc… LOL