There will be more supp players April, you just need to wait ![]()
It’s not soon enough and still not enough to balance the lopsided disaster of 19 dps classes in a game REQUIRING support.
No one gona hone up supp from ground at this point unless its new class
Or just implement a trinity systeme (tank, heal, dps) like a normal **** mmo, no ? Oh sorry, my bad, i forgot that they dont care about this game
I am Main support and dont agree. Supports dont need any privilegie, its the players mentallity that need change. And remember, all MMOs have shortage of Sups, why here was be different?
All MMOs do not have support shortages. I don’t know why people keep saying this. Aion did not have a shortage when I played, Tera did not have a shortage when I played, Archeage same shit, FF14 has a shortage of shield healers but there’s no lack of healers overall. List goes on. If anything there is a shortage of GOOD support players for endgame content but that’s something that is impossible to fix for devs as it’s primarily a player issue that can only be improved with time.
The difference with those games and this is you aren’t required to build up a big roster of characters to progress. You play one character. Not only that, those games I just listed all have support classes that are more enjoyable to play and you actually feel like you can have a significant impact in the group to the point of carrying. It feels great. They also have more support classes part of the overall class pool too plus classes that are a hybrid. Like dps/healer.
In Lost ark you are nothing more than a shield/heal/buff bot that saves people money. That’s all you exist for and generally speaking if people wanted to chug pots they could do without you. The class is unappealing visually in my opinion when compared to dps classes and is super clunky.
With the lack of variety and unappealing nature of how the supports are designed in this game as well as the overall design of this game. It’s pretty clear why there’s such a severe lack in this game as opposed to other games.
Edit: It also doesn’t help that every 8 man raid splits groups into 2. If that wasn’t the case you could have 1 support cover 7 other dps which is what you can do in other games.
There is an imbalance in the playerbase between DPS and support which ideally should be 3:1 in this game (other games have other party sizes or gameplay mechanics like life/hit).
We need to incentivize supports to be played more. I’m working on my bard (1511 at the moment) to get to 1520 but my 3x 1520+ DPS will likely not get to play G5-6 Brel for weeks if not months due to the shortage.
I’m a brand new player…3 months or so, and leveled a Bard to 1470 right now, plus getting ults going for income. It is seriously the gold wall that is stopping me. I enjoy the raids, I absolutely cannot get a decent rng item drop to get the money to go to Brel.
There needs to be more incentive for veterans to join the matchmaking queue without looking for other parties in party finder. Procyons Protection for X amount of number of cleared attempts then is gone isnt enough.
People already warned AGS about this like a year ago but noooooo, let’s released dozen of DPS characters instead including Sorc which is one of the newest class. Now I doubt that anyone actually have the resource to push a new character to Brez.
I don’t think you can incentivise enough players to push supports high enough to meet the hardest current raids demand if they keep it as 1 support to 3 dps ratio.
The simplest fix is to just allow a supports defensive buffs to affect all 8 players if there is only 1 support in a group. This will have no effect on raid dps (b/c the supports damage buffs only affect their 4 person group still) so no balance will need to be done there. Plus players can still choose to form 2 support 6 dps parties which function like they do now (defensive buffs only effect each supports 4 player party) so people that prefer this group setup are unaffected.
This is also a good change as it means if there are too many support at some ilvl or some night people can still form groups quickly (2sup 6dps) and if there are too few supports at another ilvl or night groups also form quickly (1sup 7dps).
It should be high on SGs priority list too because they are losing huge amounts of money when thousands of players quit playing the game they otherwise would not have quit after waiting in lobbies for hours and having a very bad experience. The specific reason they quit is solely because the strict 1 to 3 support to dps balance which leads to a shortage of supports. Sure it seems good on paper as a game dev to have groups of 4 (where one is a support) but in practice this 1 to 3 balance is not working and it is more like 1 to 6 or 7 and the game should be changed to reflect that balance.
It just seems so simple that this is the best solution.
same boat…just about stopped trying
So damn true…
I have a bard at 1505 that is sorta my Main ( i dont really have a clear cut main since i like to play different classes at somewhat high lvls instead of one being super juiced). Main problem for me to hone more on it is that its unappealing. As a dps i can see my numbers steadily rising. Be it dmg or health/ defenses. Every upgrade ist welcome. As a support i feel no difference. Honing the weapon ups the potency of my buffs, but i see nothing of that. Honing my armor makes me more tanky which i dont care about since i dont die by dmg anyways. Health increases the potency of my shields. Again i feel none of that.
Playing a 1500 support feels just like a 1445 support.
Dude even my party waited for my support to get THIS WEEK to 1520. So what do u expect find a support in random party?
i mean at this point just say you want them to allow any support player to join the lobby without needing the ilvl or just allow the game to know if you on support to let you get the gear for free why even bother with honning ? just get into the raid for free don’t grind like other people noooo just get a free ticket to join any group any raid without putting an effort
Just make a blue crystalline aura that can be bought with real money only and gives a perma.blessed aura heal in raids.
Ez.
You do realize we got til April for Brel Hard right ? And then probably about the same amount of time for Illkkan. Dw you get to the next imaginary ilevel feeling soon enough
Don’t worry guys I’m working on a Bard.
Just got one earring qual 45ish for 50k gold yesterday, I’ll be there soon ![]()
Well if we’re comparing Tera or other games, we should also take into consideration the time to get to 60-70 depending on the patch.You could powerlevel to 60 in the same times it takes you to progress to vern. Allowing access to dungeons ( raid equivalent ) to start your gear progression. Plus, the rates werent that bad. Even at HO. Lost ark kicks you in the dick twice and asks if you want more.
Also you had a daily limit of two entries per dungeon capping at 4 with aura right? I think that only applied to normal, and hard had a 2 per week limit. Its been a while, but that sounds right to me. I vaguely remember running multiple AAHM on my mystic, lancer, gunner, and slayer. Fun game. So, yea… that progression system absolutely shits on lost arks.
Also, side note. Lost ark slayer reminds me a little of Tera slayer. Hopefully it comes complete with its own meme slash. That would be sick. I was hoping artillerist would play like Tera gunner, maybe theres hope for a wing suite with the female version.
Being hyper generous, it would take roughly a month to hit HO if you had a dedicated group that could / would reject the roll and feed the mats to you. I dont have much experience with kaia gear admittedly, but the basis remains the same. If you had a HO priest, mystic, or lancer by then, you could very easily get to gear cap im assuming.
So nah, Tera never really had the same issue. Due to how the game progressed overall. Youre right. However, the difference is running a support alt up to max in tera didnt set your main back months at a time. So its not a fair comparison. Its like comparing gas mileage of a modern a hybrid to a car from 1905. Two completely different beasts.
Plus, lets be real. If you were making a support as part of a static i was in… and i sent you a metric ass ton of mats via mail… we would both catch a ban. That rarely happened in Tera, and if it did, they would appeal it within a day at most. AGS support takes roughly… a month? Nah, i wont risk that. Sorry.
Wasnt trying to make this long, but it ended up happening. Sorry. I do miss Tera. Im sad they closed it. Maybe i could find a private server, if you know of one hit me up.