Totally agreeing with you on this one.
And also thanks for the chat and have a nice day 
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Could be player stolen accounts that bought illegal gold, used by the bot users manually to get even more materials on the bot accounts.
Could be, still waiting for AGS confirmation. I have seen a lot of posts about hack accounts lately, like damn I canāt even play a game peacefully?
You can, as long as you donāt engage with bots lol. Also be carefull on the prices you set for stuff, as it could be bought with illegally obtained gold, ending up possibly affecting you too lol
How is playing game now similar to trying not to offend people irl, my words
My dude how is that u donāt enjoy banning someone who is cheating ? I would be mega happy to ban hammer those who break the rulesā¦i would Even send a message making fun of them when they get banned ā¦how is that You canāt enjoy making them obey the rules ?
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Fun video, but now for the important part:
Or this oneā¦seems familiar and only 2y old (or look at some of the other comments, could be this forum as well hehe):
And afaik Diablo Immortal is also getting a bigger bot problem as it seems. Letās hope there is more money in DI than in LA
Diablo Immortal players think they have a botting problem | GamesRadar+
It is kinda the same with the servers when a game comes out. By now it should be obvious that there will be to many people for all the servers, yet still almost every MMO launch is a big clusterf*** at launch.
Same way you could argue, that bots could be a very well known problem and every developer should be ready for them. Yeah wellā¦guess notā¦
Even if gm wouldnt ban all bots and they are so easy to create again with just 1 click ir not click at all ā¦banning them Will surely make something ā¦cuz creating an account and bots itās ez but it takes times to lvlup gear and have them up there to make gold ā¦which atleast itās a good thing ā¦and the higher the gear they have the more time it Will take for them to catch again ā¦and that time Will be spend banning other bots as those start again there Will always someone banning themā¦
yea just an example of bot busting be made fun like raishini was talking about. However if lost ark had the reputation of doing things like this they would not be out in the open fearlessly. I think we can all agree on that at least haha. its a cat and mouse game and we have no cats 
Yes this is correct, but so does the automated ban wave.
Iām basically arguing that automatic mechanisms are much faster and thus more efficient. And based on statements by Roxx they can identify the bots. The question should be more: why are they not immediately banned in the first place.
The statement by Roxx was done in a discussion about the real user numbers and why/when to release Valtan. People argued based on Steam stats and achievements that no one is ready or so (the usual stuff) and AGS is making decisions based on the bots ingame. And Roxx stated, that they can clearly differentiate between bots and real users. And that they base their decisions on what to release when on these internal numbers.
To me this is kinda strange, because if they have the tools, why ācollectā bots for weeks instead of simply banning them on a daily basis?
It seems like they need extended maintenance for the bansā¦
Thus Iād agree on the cat&moiuse analogy:
Only that our cat is there, but sleeping, or in a cageā¦
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Oh and btw @Shadow_Fox this would be something that is interesting to know. Iām with you when you say, that you can post everything in advance so that you donāt give any hints to the bot users.
But why canāt you simply tell us more about why it seems, that there are only these ban waves, but no automated bans on a daily basis or so.
Because @Raishini is right of course: ban the bot asap and they have no time to level up.
And another thing: if you can clearly identify the bots, why are there still so many high level bots running around? Yes people make mistakes and an automated system has some issues. But it pretty much seems that you are more or less only able to ban pretty new accounts, but the old ones with GS + 1400 are still roaming free.
āafter several months with the bot problem, it should be pretty clearā wise man from the forums once said xD.
I as a player honestly donāt care about the speed or efficiency of it, as a consumer of a end product thatās not my problem. the experience is, results are. we see the results of ban waves here in the ops screenshot, and we see it so often you make the argument that its āyesterdays newsā its become accepted as the norm and defended lol. From the comment in this thread it seems they donāt care until thereās 600k of them causing ques in a 80k player game.
My feedback is this is unacceptable no matter the reasoning or straw mans, The end result is objective failure, and more steps should be taken and money spent to combat this openly. Especially steps that have already proven to be very effective historically imho
Please correct me if Iām wrong but I think the point that @romconstruct was trying to make was that it will be very inefficient to hire GMs to manually combat the botting issue.
A major issue with botting is that it is super easy to create new LA accounts and Iām fairly certain that account creation process is pretty much automated for bot owners. Having GMs in game to manually ban bots might help alleviate a bit of the pain but doesnāt seem like a viable long-term solution.
Also, really appreciate the reply. @Shadow_Fox
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Ok and I would love to that in a short term in the mean time while they think up of something for a long term.
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Yes.
And basically my point is/was, that it might simply not be that easy as some think.
Yes part of the problem is also, that companies might to invest more. But if you really think, that AGS/SG/Blizzard/ā¦ like all the negative publicity and only want to see the playerbase get angry, well Iād beg to differ.
Clearly they are companies that want to make money and everyone that has seen Fight Club also should understand how they work/think: does it cost us more to gain some negative publicity, or does it cost us more to higher more people and implement counter measures.
Now the bot problem has been existing for like 20+ years now. And therefore Iām saying: if it was always that easy, theyād have a solution by now. Because this solution would give them even more money.
it is automated right now because there is no threat of in game enforcement, just a ban wave every couple of months and a captcha ( a captcha, really? we get this and still have arguments about game masters efficiency? 
). You just cant look at the rat infestation sans the cat and say a cat wouldnāt work, when weāve seen cats work everywhere else ya know?
The threat of in game enforcement catching you for the fourth time before you make any money just makes you much less likely to create one and run rampant out in the open like this. I donāt see a scenario or havenāt read an argument where it doesnāt instantly solve the issue posed in the op, other than it would cost the publisher that made a billion dollars a day last year some money.
If it is not something you (AGS) enjoy why include it on your companyās Q1 report? Why even mention that was the STEAM #1 game at the time when you knew this was thanks to the bots problem?
To me this not strange bro ā¦we not getting the truth here and thatās all I gonna say ā¦the info we getting itās the info they want us to have ā¦be it true or false ā¦as u said itās really strange and nonsense that if u know which are the bots and which not you donāt insta ban them ā¦also the guys who RMT never get banned so I think those info they tell to us itās not the truth ā¦or they simply donāt really know.
Iām glad i donāt play this game anymore. I see the bot problem remains. I love the world and gameplay, but i hate the bots. Wherever Iād like to enjoy fishing or any other farm, i know my time is wasted. Bots can do better.
I am sure some of the CMs do play Lost Arkā¦ they can also act like a GM give them special admin power to ban botters on the spotā¦ Botters are easy to spot especially in starter area, Vern, prideholm, Luthera, etc i mean sometimes itās more effective to hired human resources and do it themselves