great points!
With slayer release and the whole road map for summer, can you imagine how much RMT will be done?
How can bots not take advantage of that?
I am actually surprised that we are not on 110k concurrent players on peak yet, either bots are slacking or players are leaving, maybe both
Thing is - if you were to look for the highest numbers of players in April - and how much they have spent - you will see something real tragic.
April 7th - concurrent players peak 104,411 players.
People spend in the game 2 195 542 hours total (little bit over 2 million hours).
If you divide number of hours per peak players concurrent something funny comes out;
You will see that average player from that concurrent number played 21 HOURS on that day !
Without real numbers of “in” and “out” of the players we can not speculate how many bots & / or real players are there.
But imagine how HUGE the number of bots must’ve been to make the average players playtime fake to 21 HOURS per day without logging out.
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you are dividing the total amount of hours / concurrent players.
of course you will get bad results from this. you are dividing 2 totally different things.
You shud have divided total hours / total players, which is a metric we dont have. Your argument is extremely flawed.
You shud have divided total hours / total players, which is a metric we dont have. Your argument is extremely flawed.
It’s actually not, since the playtime will change depending on the day ^^
Just the peak stays the same.
Just for your poor takes I will correct my statement.
If the number of concurrent stays the same throughout the whole day - then everyone on that day played for little bit over 21 hours.
That would also mean there’s over 90% bots and way less than 10% real players.
Ofcourse it’s far from truth since the concurrent flactuate, but calling it extremely flawed is bold.
Calculate it from the information provided / or the one you can find yourself if you can do better
On a side note, another fact is here:
This game loses on average 30% of players this year, each month (except February ? what was at that time - ayaya release?)
If the trend continues:
- May could be stagnant ~72k average
- June huge chunk taken (-30% or more) ~50k average left
- July same thing ~35k average left
It will be fun this year if they won’t fix anything - and trust me they won’t 
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if the concurrent number of players stays the same then this means that
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only the same people remained in the game, which is what your 21h means
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the same amount of people who got in, got out throughout the day, and this keeps the concurrent number at the same number, but the total amount of people who logged in the day is not the same.
it’s basic maths dude.
its bold to assume that throughout the day, the same amount of people log in the game and stay logged in all day. The more realistic approach is to multiply the peak concurrent x3 and then divide it by the 2mil hours.
so 104,411 x 3 = 313,233
total hours : 2,195,542 / projected total players for that day : 313,233 = 7hours 
Also you are assuming the game is losing 30% of its playerbase each month, completely ignoring the fact that in 2023, we had massive ban waves, so we cannot draw any conclusion from your “trend”
if anything after they did the latest ban wave, we have a better picture and it’s estimated that the ccu is around 50-60k players. And that was everyones assumption for many months now.
<100 roster level 1460s are people with alt rosters xD not new players.
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? what is an alt roster? you mean established players who are using a different account?
so the 10 people i rejected on vykas yesterday with <100 roster lvl and characters at 1460 with green gems were all multiboxers.
okey!
sometimes im surprised by the wild imagination some of you have. the funniest thing is that you completely ignore logical explanations, and you go full on crazy alien theory to doompost.
it’s kinda funny not gonna lie.
LMAO “all multiboxers” no. You clearly have no clue how people play lost ark, I can tell you, I have 6k hours in the game now. 20 chars on my main roster (server 1) and 4 gold making chars on the same account on another server (server 2). Some of my friends who only played 6 chars on their main rosters already have 2-3 alt rosters with chars making gold. Ofc SOME are new players, but I bet you it is a very small % and it is a higher chance that people now with sub 100 roster levels are just some sweatlord raiding for extra gold on alt roster/2nd account.
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am also noticing alot of new players in vykas and valtan runs
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Just a heads up that it looks like at least on NAE the botters started making Destroyers. Seeing a half dozen of them in Shadow Tower I assume doing the Una’s Task. The names don’t look quite as random as before either, but they are obviously bots
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you are not describing the average lost ark player.
how many people do that? 0.05% of the population?
so peple multiboxing are more than actual new players in the game.
if im a whiteknight what are you?
inhale that doomium.
do you honestly think a f2p game that’s in the top of steam charts wont attract new players who want to try it out? do you think every new player comes in here and sees people complain all day?
you are completely delusional if you think that the game doesnt have new players trying the game out.
idk i havent seen any bots last 2 weeks on EUC lazenith servers
cus basement dwellers losers mass flag with they are being told the truth
and the mods are braindead so flags = ban
yup, and that’s why forums sucked
Bot really never left.
Right now the big gold ticket for them is either collectibles, Story Express (that gives boss rush tickets), or fishing.
Every 2 days I see a bunch of them in one particular spot in Rowen.
Players, streamers, and/or forum enjoyers telling you they are gone are just coping hard.
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You guys obviously did not do the Story Express (I don’t blame you) or it would have been clear bots never left.
I did story express the first week of Artist release, when the population was back at 50-60k.
It was literally 20 bots to every single player I would encounter. I posted about it while much of the community was gloating about bots being gone. My posts were quickly removed by staff. No truth telling!
The actual population numbers is somewhere around 25-40k. The bots never left they just restarted, many weeks ago, and used the Story Express to catch up in a day.
This post will be removed by staff less than an hour.
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I got you
I agree
There’s nothing to see here;
Move on to the discord
Game is fine
