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Do you remember they started putting out legendary books when most were already with their 17+ gear, if you’re supposed to be trying to tell me I’m crying, needless to say I never thought of complaining about buying in-game items for gold, since that they put the transactions with a limit of 3 days and all your business intelligence movements, today the cost of gold in things does not make any sense for the progress that the game gives you. The least they could do is to give frequently a couple of Legendary Engravings that can’t be sold in the shop, like the 2 they gave out for use in class instead they add to the daily reward some vitameow. Are you going to tell me that even if they give you 20 legendary books, they are giving you progress? In jewelery you can bet that you spend at least 350k on how things are today, numbers that are only allowed today by people who paid to play, dead game because people can no longer afford anything beyond making the same things 10 months in a row to be able to do 1 more different legion raid in a character waoh splendid wonderful video game. That you are a white knight does not mean that those who are not of your caste only know how to cry mate.
You buy books to not spend 100k+ on accesories with +5 class engraving
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There is no point in talking to someone who took advantage of the corrupt bot economy.The same you spend those 100k in a stone and you can be left with nothing useful.
Idiotic answers that didn’t continue reading and continue to validate your point of view, they only know how to quote to be proud, leave it bro, I’m done.
Playing a RNG game and complain bout RNG
You think they get more expensive because of bots?
I think the opposite.
The bots where farming anguished island and the t3 tower for the books. With the current patch today, they limit it to ilvl 1445 to get them. So the bots are probably out.
Lets see the next days if the prices of engraving books will skyrocket, as there is enough demand even with bots, which now can’t farm them easily anymore.
I think so to cause logical wise, bots should make the books cheaper. The big reason is, in my opinion, people reached a point where they no longer hone and looking for 5x3 so they need books. So higher demand = higher prices.
1510, bought ark pass <3
Fanboys living in their perfect world of egomania on this forum is worrying. In five months new content prepare for the mega ultra nuclear hype. Until then, just show yourself on the forum that you’re not glued to the same enslaving game all day.
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I just don’t get it I guess. You are complaining that bots are ruining the game economy? Explain to me in detail how you come up with that.
Bots and botters actually should be helping keep the prices lower because more supply then demand means lower costs. I would have to assume since your saying prices are outlandish that the dev team must be doing something right.
Here is the best way you as an individual can deal with botters. First if your in the area they are just change the channel as i will call it in the upper right hand corner pick one that is green this way you are most likely not going to see as many or any bots.
Second just ignore them as if they do not exist even if they are hunting something you want or need to kill. We used to call it kill stealing. How ever when it came to botters it was just fair game to do what you needed to do when they were around. The re-spawns are very fast so as stated above play through or just switch channels.
I have no problems with bots or botters because i simply don’t let them bother me. But as you said prices are getting outlandish this game you do not need to pay to play if you do not want too. While I have paid its been mainly for extra char slots. $10 a month seems like a good deal compared to some games that want $15+ a month and then have to deal with the exact same situation their.
He says and still play the game.
I dont care if someone is 1550. I still have fun with my 1480 4x3 +1 and some alts while saving stuff and waiting for the Reaper release. I bought 20 grudge books in less than 3 weeks of farming and not selling my upgrade stuff. Its a grindy game. You either need fun, luck or money.
I do have fun, no luck and dont like to spend money. And thats fine! I love the weekly content and as im saving up, i see everything grow which is fine. I never thought how much gold and mats you get if you just dont upgrade for a while and do other stuff like getting engraving books. Its only like 1 month for 2 lvl3 engravings. Thats completly fine. Idk i played Metin2 as a kid or grinded my ass off in Guild Wars. Its just a mind think. Yeah, if you whale you have more, but for me personally this would destroy the fun of Lost Ark.
After several years finally a MMO where the raids make fun and are challenging. I rather to progress with minimum ilvl than whaling around and play a second WoW where you need no skill and you rarely even die.
Without bots, prices are going to go up. The fact is that these prices are probably more “normal” than some regions have seen. The bots were keeping prices at bay… You can’t have it both ways.
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If ur roaster only generates 15k per week don’t buy fucking useless books u don’t need to reach 4x3.
To put it simple. It’s a grind game, so grind 6 chars for the full gold roaster. And 300k for books are mearly 3 weeks.
Maybe it’s a generation issue with ur Metapher - but ur learning not for the test or the teacher ur learning for urself. So if u buy the answers u cheated on urself. Same with the game. If u like the game stop buying from gold seller and try to put the blame on ags. You don’t need the books - if u can’t affort the books.
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You wanted bots gone from thronespire? Enjoy 50k grudge lol
Bots are not simply “helping keep prices down”. Bots produce some items, yes, but they also generate a lot of new gold, and that increase in gold supply in turn generates inflation across the entire economy.
The price of the specific items they trade (i.e. the class legendary books) may go down, but at the same time the gold of everyone who is not buying gold from RMTers is now worth less due to the influx of bot-generated gold. There is an effective shift in purchasing power from regular players towards RMTer’s customers.
Also, note that bots have an adverse effect even on the items that they do trade: everyone else who sells those items is getting less gold for their time than they should have.
Finally, we may ask what’s the harm of bots selling gold if you can already get gold with real money by paying SG/AGS for royal crystals then trading those in for gold. It’s simple: the gold you get by selling royal crystals is not new gold. It’s gold that already exists in the economy and it’s just changing hands - the supply of money is not really increasing. The only new thing generated is crystals, and those are spent outside the economy at the in-game store.
Whether you notice it or not, the effect bots have on the game’s economy is very pervasive and it harms every single player who is not buying gold from RMT sites.
Bots are among the worst things in this game, right there with Pheons.
Sorry I just don’t buy your argument. In reality you actually proved mine. “Also, note that bots have an adverse effect even on the items that they do trade: everyone else who sells those items is getting less gold for their time than they should have.”. I am assuming you mean things like hp pots. Cost what 6.6 gold each to make and only sell for 10 gold? So others have to sell them at 9 gold? True it keeps the cost down which is what i said. The less items I have to make the more time I have to enjoy the game.
You think these gold sellers are making gold out of thin air? No it comes from quest just like us they had to start somewhere to get the gold flowing. But its still generated from the system. As for the buying gold from the crystals I am sorry it cost real $$$ to get the Royal Crystals. I know because I bought some from the game store. As for the bot stores. Well if you are going to buy from them that’s your choice (not you specifically) but their is a risk with it. You could have your account banned for one. I myself would never buy from them.
One thing the devs could do is implement a purchase system so that for those who do not want to support bots is to make it so we can chose what price we want to pay for an item. Like even though the lowest price is 10 gold we could choose to pay 11 gold to support a real local player. Also they could attach the player name to the item being purchase so that we can tell if its a botter or not.
Like I said just ignore it its not going away anytime soon. That is unless they intend to blanket ban IP address which could cost them money in the long run. I just do not see them going away.
excellent graph, you can see that there are no bots, online growth is 24/7, people after the update do not leave the game for days, but only enter
P.S. It’s sarcasm. Well, I’m tired of seeing this…
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If you ask a person from that time when he went to the coliseum, he would tell you that he also had fun watching how they killed each other. That you conform to the situation of the game does not mean fun, only conformity. There is still a lot to polish in all this; I will tell you something that perhaps takes you out of your blind conformism.
Keep in mind that when we started we had no gear buffs and almost no resource gains and it took 3 months of spam chaos dungeons and doing everything possible to get ahead with the alts at the back to make just one p1 Argos, because the game itself forced you to resort to filling your list for the weekly gold limit. Right now they give you a rush to 1415 that only takes you 3 days, but now you see their true intentions they wash their image by giving away huge progress compared to how they based the game in the beginning; when they had made you believe that they were never going to give you free progress beyond yoho simulator. Now that everyone invested in their 1415+ chars they do the opposite. Quite a move for you to buy more character slots because you’ve obviously already filled them. Was it so necessary to bleed your legitimate players so much I honestly wonder. It is more important to pamper new players who are going to try the game without knowing that all their steps are being limited by their business strategy plus a broken game economy and the plagues of bots that broke into the legitimacy of the game, to the veteran already not a drop of blood left, that’s for sure.
Its called catch up mech for new player - but u can also belive In ill intent if u feel better.
Apparently you didn’t understand what I planted.
We too were new players and yet we were in a dead zone getting bored or didn’t you read the forum 3-4 months ago?; just a boring event that only gave you one attempt per week to upload a piece of equipment for 2 months and they didn’t even have buff. With gold gain that was never a gain because you spent it on making equipment and trying to get accessories, limited to making argos/oreha for a measly leftover gold, now they give you a character who gets a free gain from argos p3, entry to raid incursion and equipment reduces the cost of improvement. I think there is no need to compare anything else.