So this is the whole reason youre crying? Your alts dont need bus cuz they are 1400 so it doesnt affect you if they stop people from bussing, bet youre the same kid who was crying against global honning buff because all his alts where at t3 already
The struggles to keep your title of being completely free to play on a game that is free to play.
ugh why would anybody want whales to quit an MMO
then AGS will pull the plug ignorance is bliss suppose
You know this thread is no longer worth wasting time on when the OP marking his comment as his solution kekw
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It does but its not as significant as people make it seem to be.
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Thereâs nothing wrong with carries. The problem is the game is designed to expect you to grind out raids like a job across 6 alts for your weekly income. On top of all the other weekly grind, people are hitting their limit and turn to carries.
The âb-but inflation!â argument is silly since without carries youâd still be looking at that 6 alt raiding grind and only the deep end of the nolifer pool would have time for it. That would leave you competing for gear against people with much higher incomes than you, and it would feel like turbo inflation to you.
Inflation and blaming bussing is a poor excuse for bad economic balancing. Rosters are designed to make gold on 6 characters, the economy should be balanced around that since it is by design. If bussing didnât exist and a bulk of the playerbase ran the content how it was designed the end result is the same. Bussing isnât at fault it only highlights it.
I sincerely agree with OP, bussing is bad you guys should also stop doing it.
Hopefully this helps drive bus prices up so I can make more busing argos, valtan, vykas (NM and HM) on my 6 characters
soâŚbasically what youâre doing?
bussing has done jack shit to affect the game 
inflation we having now is 100% cause of bots and how much gold they have injected into the economy. Thinking it has anything to with bussing is just delusional.
Right, because surely the raid wonât just stop, boot you, and pick up someone else lol. Youâre sure showing them though.
I like how OP preemptively states counter arguments are invalid bc ppl donât have data to back it up, yet without the same confidential data only SMG or Amazon presumably has, starts the thread with his presumption that â A bus prints more money than it should haveâ
He makes completely subjective statement with no proof, yet demands any counter is invalid bc same no proof.
Does bussing print money into system? Sure.
Does bussing print more money than it should? This is a subjective statement without confidential economic data that presumably only SMG and Amazon has.
Key words = âthan it shouldâ. As opposed to what OP? If you claim it is printing more than it should, then you clearly know exactly how much is fine, and what amount the threshold changes from acceptable to more than it should.
So what is that amount in total? On avg per player? And from what time periods. Show us your data OP. Oh wait, thatâs right, his made up allegations require no proof but anyone disagreeing must show data.
Unfortunately OP got tired of stupid comments and decided that itâs not worth to continue the conversation.
OP provides data in the form of observable truth.
A 1415 character without proper setup would not be allowed in any group.
If busees were banned said toon would not be able to gather the gold.
Therefore by having busses by definition a bus prints more money than it would have existed otherwise
Excess supply of money leads to inflation. Hence decreasing the value of the currency.
What OP gets triggered from is when people pull statistics from their ass, when clearly no one can provide proof how much gold bots generate on daily/weekly basis and how.
Since OP watches closely Korea motherland he knows for a fact that bussing is the main source of inflation there.
Somehow however people think op hates bussing.
No in fact OP will buss all his alts from 1400 to 1460 because op isnât interested spending a single pheon or gold in the action house and just hoard money each week.
The core message that OP Is saying is that it puts a smile on his face when he sees people on the forum getting frustrated, quit or get banned from greed and still defend bussing.
You are answering an argument I never made, perhaps by mistake or just being disingenuous.
I never said bussing doesnât add more money into economy âthan it would have existed otherwiseâ.
If only 1 single buster existed and he made exactly 1 gold, it would be a true statement that the +1 gold is âmore money than it would have existedâ
What OP said was bussing prints more money into economy âthan it shouldâ. He did not say it adds money as that is obvious. He made the rather stupid declaration that counter arguments were invalid because data didnât exist to back it up, yet he is the one making totally subjective statement that bussing adds more money âthan it shouldâ
The second OP says âthan it shouldâ, he is drawing a line saying he knows where this magic line is. Yet gives zero data, zero gold amounts considered ok because it is less âthan it shouldâ.
So nice irrelevant reply. If OP wants to change his statement that ANY amount is too much, then fine, we can debate that. But his statement was specifically about âmore than it shouldâ with zero data to back that up, while preemptively declaring any counter argument is invalid without the same data he skipped.
technically any gold made beyond the ilvl of the character is âgold that never should of existedâ
meaning a 1370 being carried to phase 3 argos is making roughly 1900 gold that otherwise could not of existed.
one of the major ways the game counters inflation is by the gold that must be invested into a character to not only get them too the raid ilvl but to make them raid ready.
when you bypass this you have simply created gold that has no counter balance and thus created alot more inflation.
Thoroughly backed up and researched with your economics degree from Facebook University
That single handily invalidates any credibility you had.
its actually happening now
Go on AH right now
The combinations u need are NOT on the AH
this means new player not reaching endgame
Alts not doing raids cant gear up
Neither do you. One can make a guess though. If 10000 players take a bus for argos 13 million extra gold is generated. Would the market notice 13 million extra gold or cause inflation? No, definitely not. Thatâs a laughable amount in face of what is actually being generated just by running dungeons on alts. This thread is silly and you shouldnât be mad at better or richer players.