Captcha needs to come back asap

There are no level boosting events from January 2023, and bots were swarming from lvl 1- 50 regions. Just last 2 weeks Bot numbers were off the roof. There were literally “Bot Clone Wars” even in Punika regions. This coincided with the absurd increase in Fish and Crystal prices.

Well it is extremely easy for those bots to create account whenever hyper express was introduced.

I am here to say to the other replies that CAPTCHA was working for the first day or so, but after that the bots were already figuring it out because I was already seeing some bots running through Arthentine just fine. In fact I followed one and it was doing all the questing before going off to Vern.

It was only NAW. It was never activated on EUC.

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Captcha had a huge impact on the bots. What are you smoking? During the entire duration of the captcha testing, majority of the zones were completely empty of bots save for one or two here and there. Whenever I would excavate in Punika every day when the captcha was around, it was actually really difficult to use my life skill energy because there was only ever 1 channel active. Now? There are 4-5 channels at any given time during the day. Mari server, btw.

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Right back at you - what are you even smoking? Arthetine on Valtan literally had 1 train of bots running the entire quest line with Captcha activated.

I will give you that it worked on most bots, but that’s because those have yet to adapt.

As long as there are no bots in Luttera, it worked. Cuz, I constantly see waves of clones every single day I log in there.

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Stop digging your grave deeper. Anyone who played on NAW knows for a fact it worked and bots were nonexistent. @Mikumari is actually right here, though usually not.

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And that’s all that matters. If it’s helpful to suppress a majority of the bots, then isn’t it worth revisiting?

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Bots are like Bacteria in you’re mouth. You need to keep brushing every single damn day to remove 99% of them, only for them to come back the next day.
If AGS/SG thinks its too much of chore, then they are hardly capable of maintaining any MMO.

lol.AGS don’t like brushing their teeth very much

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how do you know they are yet to adapt? why even push that it doesn’t work fully? Working to an extent is better then no action at all unless you actually support having bots in the game? What else are you proposing?

I don’t even know who you are. I also played on NAW and I never said it didn’t work? I said:

I never said it didn’t work - I said the bots already started to bypass it because I saw and followed 1 entire bot line going through Arthetine doing quest over there. I parked all my character at Arthetine minus may be my main at Punika. Even in Punika I saw at least 2 that were running doing quest.

You should heed your own advice - stop digging your own grave because clearly your reading and understanding is quiet frankly bad. Less hating, more loving is what you need.

Actually I am going to disagree on this. None of the methods implement no matter how bad was ever reversed when it is demonstrated to not work. IF we all said let’s put in CAPTCHA, and then the bot bypass it, would you expect AGS/SG to remove that? I don’t think they will.

I will start to agree if AGS/SG actually put effort into monitoring and not relying on automated process. Even a simple ban wave every 2 weeks will work for me. But I bet none of you guys think that’s better than CAPTCHA right?

I will reply to you the same as Naomi. Please read:

I never said it doesn’t work. The problem I have right now is if they do go forward, and the bot bypass it. Are they going to consider updating the gacha again or just leave it as is? Are they going to admit to remove that and start doing ban wave periodically because that’s the only thing worked well so far? What exactly is their stance now that bot already reached 1375s and already in party finder. These are the questions I have meanwhile you guys piling let’s put in captcha and let put in more stuff that never get adjusted.

Yeah I can’t comprehend your logic either :clown_face:. You along with people that supported every failed measure so far are hoping for one that works, but once it doesn’t did you even tell AGS/SG to remove that and try something else or just leave it in there?

No you didn’t. This is what the situation created: 1375s? Yes please it will combat the bot and where are they now? in Party Finder. Did you tell AGS/SG to remove this because it didn’t work?

Right you did not. I am playing the games, not here to submit captcha every time I login another character. I hope you see that part of concerns and not just your own.

Bots are a problem, I never deny that. I suggested to do ban wave periodically because that worked well. Captcha is something I don’t want to do because I do also afk in the game.

I mean, it has already been demonstrated that it works. It doesn’t matter what you think AGS will or will not do. You’re kind of just grasping for straws here.

I didn’t know disagreeing with you meant I’m grasping for straws if I disagree with bringing Captcha back ?

You’re kind of being an ass to be honest and expect everyone to agree with your suggestion but I will give it back to you: “It doesn’t matter what you think AGS will or will not do either about Captcha”.

That’s because you’re creating and using hypotheticals to try to defend your argument. “IF the bots bypass it”, “IF AGS/SG doesn’t remove it”. Neither of these what ifs strengthen your argument.

We already have the facts. The captcha system worked to suppress a majority of the bots for the duration it was tested in our region.

I am sorry. I am not defending my argument. I am stating what I saw right after Captcha was implemented. I was suspend 3 days for missing Captcha because I stepped away from the screen at the wrong time. Those are my experience with Captcha.

The IF is not to strengthen anything. I am asking you and those like you a genuine question. Methods that never worked are still in the game, if this Captcha also get bypass, are you going to be the first to advocate for its removal because it is a concern for players like myself since it is going to require me to basically be at the screen for all game-time, which I sometimes do not.

Would you be able to convince AGS/SG once that is not working to remove it or will you be like you are now and kept suggesting and hoping for one that will work the next time. If your answer is yes, do you honestly think they will listen to your plea?

This isn’t a simple inconvenience that I can just log back in if I missed one Captcha - I waited 3 days to go back in when I did nothing wrong? Answer me that then may be I will support your cause. Until then, keep going with insult then likewise, you also have no strong argument here.

This is my last reply. I am all for fighting bots, but when you have a ban wave tool that historically been able to catch them and set them back why not support that instead of this. It is not inconvenience for other players either. Granted a ban wave may result in false ban, but that’s what AGS/SG and us players expect AGS/SG to be able to correct it. I mean we do put effort into this game, we love the game, so wouldn’t it be too much to expect some effort on AGS/SG part instead of making something that potentially turn an experience negative for some.

I fully expect not many will see this eyes to eyes, and that’s okay. I also expect to be attacked by some people from this community assuming I am a botter simply because I held a different experience and voiced concern over subject like Captcha. It’s funny because I am one of the oldest player around and if anyone had experience with how damaging bot done to the game, it should be players like myself.

One of the fine example of this community. Full on assumption even to one of the oldest player since Beta. I don’t pay attention much in forums, you can go ahead and check my profile.

I checked in to see how it is doing, but turned out, people are actually going insane in here throwing accusations like this fine person here. This is why AGS/SG doesn’t give a damn about any of us or our opinion, because you have people like this one too busy attacking others with his imaginary who voiced valid concerns and you can’t answer them logically.

Anyway I’m out of here

AGS stated the reason for this a long time ago, and it’s the same reasoning that every other game that has bot problems uses to not do banwaves too often. That reason is bots will eventually figure out how they are being detected and will adapt to get around the bot detection measures.