I used to think pheons …helped fund the game. Now I’m note sure. People just convert gold to blue. So charging pheons between alts makes no sense. Then I think to myself…everything we get in this game is mostly from KR. Did KR players not kick up a fuss about this ???
They will never adress this issue or any issue regarding pheon. No one in ags/sg will! The only ways for them to take action is to hurt their bottom lime. Its all about the almighty $!
You can’t do gold to bc if no one is injecting real money in. It’s part of why SA has big problems due to the lack of regional pricing.
No… Trade limit (2-3x) would apply to mailing too.
i Would do this for 24 scouter if i could XD.
not if it is in roster storage.
I can relate to your argument and agree to that in case it’s accessories. But for stones? The price of stones are so low it’s not even 50 golds now, but the pheon to mail them to alts takes the same price as buying from AH. And stone isn’t one time send and not 100% 7 6 or 9 7 for relics.
Items are bound after Sendung per Mail. At least relic Stones so No thats Not how IT would end
100 percent agree, i have jewelery and stones i would like to pass around in my roster, but the pheon cost is so high and IT MAKES ZERO FCUKIN SENSE
Also about pheons in general, i understand that they are somewhat nevessary to keep the blue crystal gold exchange going but there should be some kind of mechanism to ensure that their price does npt skyrocket. Right now on euc 1200 gold ia 100 blue crystal, so buying 100 pheons is 10800 gold. that means any kind of relic accessory starts at 2700 gold even if it is sold by 50 gpld on the market. This means you will neber buy anything except the best/perfext fit stuff which in turn raises the prices of such things even higher and lowers the prices of everything else. but then again, it doea not mater tjat you can buy a semioptimal ring for 50 gold instead of 200 for your alt, because the price starts at 2700 gold anyway…
they shpuld either lower the cost of the royal crystal and raise the royal crystal shop prices accordingly or give more blue crystals for the royal crystal so the blue crystal supply side could somewhat recover - these lvl of pheon prices make it far too expensive to gear alts properly and cripple the maeket of evefything that needs pheons. Also they could just give out more pheons for free…
“Pheons are bad but they are necessary” is an often repeated argument. In reality, it’s really only some of the things pheons now discourage that are necessary, not the system itself. The system is purely a profit generating system for devs that happens to also discourage some activities. Those activities could be discouraged using means less burdensome to the players, but with less or no profit to devs. Obviously they won’t do that.
For example, in this context, limiting the number of times accessories can be transferred is the simpler solution, but one that doesn’t make devs money.
im sorry but i totally disagree and find your answer somewhat stupid.
you cant even buy pheons with real mpney or rc. it is very easy to see that its main function is to ensure that players want to buy bc and therefore keep the gold bc exchange working.
if you disagree please explain to me why not just state something stupid. 
is it the best way to create demand for bc? probably not. do i like them. no. is it a problem for the game that they became so expensive in gold. yes, big issue.
but not because the greedy company blablabla bs…
Asked the same question months ago.
“With more feedback… blah blah blah” There has been plenty of feedback from the players and no response back.
First, you can always tell when someone’s argument is weak when they resort to personal attacks. They have nothing to support their position so they resort to “well you’re stupid.”
Second, you can absolutely buy pheons with real money. RC and BC are forms of store credit aka real money. 238 RC = 100 BC and that’s fixed by the game. You and trade RC for BC in the store and buy pheons completely outside the in-game gold system. In fact, this is the predominate way pheons are purchased by those that spend real money on the game.
Third, do pheons support the BC-gold exchange or does the BC-gold exchange support pheons? I argue the latter. The assumption you make is there’s nothing in the store worth buying except for pheons. Hence we need the exchange so F2P can buy pheons. Without pheons, F2P won’t use the exchange because they don’t want anything else. Then why do we need the exchange? SG/AGS can just sell gold to players for money (i.e., like a WoW token) and allow players to trade gold for BC. Really pheons have nothing to do with the exchange. If the store has nothing worth it, then the exchange is not worth it.
Fourth, in NA, each pheon is $0.238. A relic accessory needs 15 pheons, which is $5.95. A set of accessories (not counting stone) consumes $29.75 of store credit. How many players have bought at least one set of accessories consuming $29.75 each? It’s a huge amount of profit for SG/AGS. One which they will never give up.
Fifth, no other popular MMO uses a pheon system or anything similar. They all have functioning markets and use other more player-friendly means to prevent abuse. It’s not that they don’t know about systems like pheons, it’s that they choose to not put them in their game. Every other MMO.
There are more points but there’s no need.
okay thats better.
so first: no one said that you are sfupid, i said what you said was stupid. not the same thing.
second: i presented no argument yet, just stated that pheons are important to keep the bc gold exchange going.
third: i dpnt think i was making this personal, just wanted to explain why it is hownit is and rexeived the typical braindead answer frp you. again im not saying you arr braindead, it feels youbare a little lazy to think for youraelf and just accepted the peoples opinion because it suits how you feel. about the situation yourself.
i checked the shop and found the bc packages. ok, in that sense you can buy it i give you that i was not aware of it.
still, the exchange is important and normally would support the f2p players. the idea there is that real. money will buy rc/bc than buy gold frpm f2p than pay the gold back tpnf2p for whtever they wanna spend the gold. the gold in game is created by playing the game the company has no gold to sell. this way the real. money whales will not inflate the grinding but instead make it more valuable. thats wjy the exchange is very inportant and thats why this game is kinda f2p friendly.
but why would f2p. players exchange their gold for bc? the other things in the ahop are not completely useleaa but not essential either. there is not a single thing that a hard grinsing f2p player needs more than pheons so he will. be able to set hia roster up properly. myself is in essence f2p and i spent at. least 70 percent og my bc on. pheons because i have a six men 1430+ roster. i bought some akins nd buy the crustaline aura as well ut that is nothing compared to how much i had to spend on pheons.
And i can ask the same question to you as well: if this was only bout greed and money, why can you buy it with in game currency if they could just sell it to you for money or at least on a rate that is not set by the market.
how many players spent 30 dollars on a set worth of pheons? dude, how many have not… and me for example certainly never will.
and yes no pther mmos have this szstem because no other mmo has such a f2p player friendly economy set up. either. thats an even worse argument then the how. many players spent 30 dollars…
okay i think i answered evefything, sorry about the typos. im intetested in your counter argument, please let me know what you thinlk. take care.
It doesn’t matter who spends the $30, the fact is it gets spent. Every time a set of accessories gets bought from AH. It could be your $30 or it could be you traded your gold for someone else’s $30. Either way SG gets the money. Every single trade on the AH. It’s a fact and there’s no point moving forward if you don’t understand. You are charmed by the psychological system of pheons and you’re not alone.
thats not even true. lets say some pne buys 30 dollar worth of rc and exchanges it to gold. my gold. that bc ibget for. mybgold i will spend it on pheons. the guy frpn thw gold in game buys grudge books. i buy my set on ah. So now thatb30 gold was spent on the set and on the grudge books as well? im sorry but that dowa not. make sense.
if there was no other way to get pheons but for real. money - yes your argument would make sense. but it is not true.
all in all i really dont like pheons myself, and at the current point i think they are bad and should be aomehow lowered in gold. price. but not because the company is greedy and blabblabla
I’m sorry you don’t understand. We can’t go further without it. It’s just objective fact that pheons consume BC and BC is money or more accurately store credit. Good luck in the game!
Thats a good way to do things right. I cant buy anything nice. We all understand that the game needs money to run, but such changes kill the game.
And to get an understanding of the scale of the revenue consider this: let’s assume 100k players each bought 10 relic accessories. That’s 5 for their main build and maybe 5 for an alt or a chaos build. That’s one million accessories traded that needed 25 pheons each. As explained 25 pheons is $5.05 worth of store credit. That’s $5.05 million in revenue to SG. Think of the lifetime of the game. How many millions of trades in the AH. I haven’t even considered stones. It’s 10’s if not 100’s of millions of dollars revenue.
My guess is before pheons they looked at the store revenue and it was’t good. They saw all the AH transactions and decided to be like a broker on a stock exchange. Collecting $$ per trade.