Class/Content release rate - A healthy discussion

…isn’t Aeromancer and Artist tied to releasing the storyline first?

Please correct me if I’m wrong but it would make very little sense to release those classes before the story is released

Also too Summoner just got a major rework which is why the class was delayed for release (seems like Machinist was finished before it and this rework might have been in the works for a while)

I have a feeling that Reaper might be up for some changes too like Machinist (pure speculation though)

This could be the main reason for the 2 month release, so people don’t gear up a class and one month later you gotta regear because “rework”!

Honestly I think they did y’all a favor with Summoner delay, it does look pretty dope and a lot of people on here are excited for it

…but that’s hype, we don’t do that here in these forums, we just bitch about everything instead

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How are we going to catch up to KR then?

We were 18 months behind KR content when the game came out in Feb, we will be 17 months behind KR content in a week when Clown comes out.

I think you don’t realize how slow we’re actually getting content, slower than KR sometimes.

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Please just release the Artist class, we need the extra support so badly - painful to constantly be waiting for supports for groups. I’m so keen to play it!

Your username pretty much sums up your entire comment.

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At this point we literally only have 3 classes left and from the looks of it it’s really not worth trying to whine at this point as we clearly see that AGS still doesn’t care lmao.

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and you username pretty much shows you have too much of it.

still gotta have hopes though AMIRITE?

KEKW

I think Lost Ark might survive the west but i have my doubts, New World is on the rise, Ashes of Creation is just around the corner (hopefully) and Thrones of Liberty could be here in a few years. Hate to be a doomer, but inflation is out of control, RMT and bots are still rampant and new content isn’t really “new” for a lot of us, we can just watch it in KR.

Microtransactions are increasingly being shoved in our face, classes are only released every 2nd month and not all of them with power passes. Yes this is a fast pace if they were new but again we’ve already seen classes like scouter and reaper on youtube and can look up build guides and such.

“boo hoo class cadence is bad for the game (me) and because its bad for the game (me) its bad for everyone (me). theres zero point discussing any alternative perspectives because they’re all wrong since the cadence very clearly negatively affects everyone (me)” ok mom

where did l say its impossible to prioritize one of them? theres literally only 2 options if they’re all released together

  1. equal split and equally useless for however number of classes longer than funneling

  2. prioritize and 2 become useless until one is finished. the priority needs to hit 1475 from level 1 which isn’t exactly free or instant making the 2 untouched ones irrelevant and not matter if they were released or not since l wouldn’t touch them

l play 12 characters a day, used rest bonus a grand total of 3 times since february launch and bus on 6 of the 12.

1 1475 char with average rng not including t1, t2, t3 1302 → 1370 is 100k gold, 900k shards, 3.8k fusions, 65k red rocks, 194k blue rocks, 5.7k GHL

current prices makes that just under 900k gold @ 150k/week = 5-6 weeks to bumrush one new class to a relevant ilvl that it could replace one of my main 6. does it really matter to me or make a difference to me if a class that l wouldn’t be touching for 6 weeks is released simultaneously or 4, 8, or 12 weeks later? not really. the average player also isn’t doing 150k a week so that 6 week estimate is likely far longer

l’ll have all 3 of them 2-3 months after their release. it changes nothing for me having them released earlier. my use case is not your use case obviously and shocker, different people are affected by circumstances differently. the only difference is l’d have to waste my time doing dailies on some worthless 3x 1340-1415 char just so they can get honing mats there and take upwards of 20 weeks to get all 3 done anyway

I’ll have to say it outright because you are clearly misunderstanding and only explaining in a way a child can understand might help you. I hope you have at least the level of understanding of a 10yr old…

This does not mean : “I’m ending the talk because my opinion is right and release is bad so don’t talk about it.” like you seem to think.

It means: The release cadence is not ideal(best,perfect, without flaws) and Amazon Games studio knows this as it is very clear(visible,obvious), but they will not change it so talking about it is not useful(productive).

Do you understand now, you unfortunate, agressive, immature, little child?

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glad you were able to reword your statement in a way that actually reflects your intention explicitly rather than leaving it to the obvious interpretation of the previous comments. congratulations on being concise

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Everyone but you udnerstood it just fine. It’s a personal problem so you should work on your reading comprehension. That aside, I’m glad you were able to understand now. I feel better knowing you are no less intelligent than I initially thought. Good on you.

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Y’know, I had a thought

I think a lot of people didnt play FFXIV 1.0

That was so bad they had to scrap it entirely and re-release the game to what it is today

“its not even a discussion worth having” can be interpreted multiple ways and without an actual foundation knowing your perspective, my assumption vs your true opinion isn’t really a comprehension issue but rather you lacking clarity. good talk though

the only reason you guys are saying that new classes are not content cause you guys been looking at guides at the korean version. not even trying to learn what the skill does and what kind of combo you need to do. you guys have been spoiled so much that whatever they do you guys will complain.

That already happend with Lost ark.

Lost ark season 1 was too tryhard (to the point the hardest content of the game was guardian raid, lumerus was a god), and then they reworked it totaly, and now we have the season 2.

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So the reason class is content is because ppl don’t look at what to do ?

not rly a good way to see things, as the class system itself doesnt change.

And there’s also something that need to be clear, people are on this game either because of the hype of start, or because they saw the KR version.

People that were here because of the hype spoiled themselves because the class release is too long.

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Forum spoke a while ago. “I was 1490 in June, so everyone else has to be that far aswell.”
The vast vocal majority on the forums are RMT enjoyers and no-lifers (like me). Of course we will be ahead of the average player, because we have more time or money.
What the players would need for a proper assessment of the siutiation are player datas. Smilegate does it on LoA ON Summer and Winter. They show us statistics of where the player base is at. AGs is not doing that, in fact, they are barely talking to us at all. [The CMs don’t get information from the higher ups, so they can’t tell us anything. I am not blaming the CMs here!]
On another note, Abrelshud Hard was released 1 month after Normal in the other regions afaik. HM is G1+2 1540, G3+4 1550, G5+6 1560. getting from 1520 to 1560 will take more than one month, unless you spend a lot of money, or had the luck to prepare with lots of money since launch.
I personally will be 1490 for NM launch, but… to efficiently progress with the new gear, I would need to do all 6 gates. Or at least 1-4. JiuDau said, it takes 7 weeks to get a full set (assuming you buy at least one chest from bidding after clearing Gate 6.)

I personally liked the extra month between Vykas and Kakul Saydon. Instead of having no character ready - or just barely making it with one on maximum FOMO experience -, I was able to build my roster and am now making enough gold to afford 125 pheons for 5 accessory pieces cough cough

In my opinion, class releases should be a lot faster than they are. One a month and let’s go. A class is not content, it is a tool to experience content with. That is my opinion and many people disagree, which is fine! We are all right and wrong in one way or another.
On a side note: I am very excited for Aeromancerist and Artistist. I like the skill design of these two.

I have never been hyped for any content release. I usually am hyped for the game release, which dies off after 1-4weeks.

I like your text. Was good to read and simple to understand. Your english was good aswell!

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Umbrelistier and brusherist. Get the names right

Please

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Nope, it’s AGS. They’ll find reasons to delay just like they did for Clown. If we had the timeline as the other servers, Clown would’ve been in August instead of the stupid pet ranch.