Every single static has disbanded but 1. 80% of the serious or dedicated players have quit game or taken extended break. Its a real problem.
This raid pressures you to alienate guild members who cannot complete it, This destroys friendships and guilds. The worst players get singled out or feel guilty and leave.
Most of my guild can clear valtan + vykas in under 1 hour for both with an average of 1 death per group. These people used to love the game and there was laughter and jokes during raiding.
Now only the dark souls guys remain. We went from around 40 active to around 4 active and 2 of those are full rest dont attempt g3 at all.
Most of the people talking now in my discord were people who joined us in valtan/vykas raids lfg to complete clown.
This was the most antisocial MMO ive ever played. Then clown released and its 10x worse, becoming a toxic cesspool of judgement, destroyed friendship and dismantled guilds.
The raid is visually stunning, but the design is a bit wreckless and unforgiving. I would love to play with my friends again. I dont care that they’re medoocre. I chose to leave my statics because i don’t want to attempt gate 3 anymore. I haven’t missed a raid since i joined the guild and now we don’t even play together, because our group is mediocre and will take our entire available time each week to clear 1 gate and cause backwards progression.
This is exactly what the clown raid has done to the Lost Ark community. There are endless numbers of guilds just quitting the game now because of the raid format of the clown. The entire guild I was playing in just moved to another MMO that is probably not allowed to talk about here. But that’s the reality of what one badly designed raid can do to a MMO game.
G3 is certainly difficult for some players and at other times may have some questionable hitboxes, but everybody can at least complete G1 + G2 to gradually accumulate the mats to upgrade their sets when Brel arrives in December for maybe the 4 set level 2 effect.
On another note, Valtan and Vykas raids can be completed in under 1 hour with an average of 1 death per group because so much time has pass with accumulated experiences to know all mechanics + visuals as well. Fast forward a couple months from now and maybe more players will think Clown raid is homework, too.
Imo, Clown raid difficulty is alright the way it is. There could be certainly compromises such as making the saws go from 1 hit k.o > 50% hp, but the game needs some sort of challenge that isn’t on the level of hell mode, but at what Clown is at atm.
You can call it the most antisocial mmo ever, but to be completely honest they don’t really sound like stable nice people if this is enough to “destroy friendships” or “turn people against each other”.
Seems like people are a bit too sensitive. This raid isn’t even that hardcore
They call MMO, but we known the truth. Its a dailychecklist grind simulator, with little fun on raids. Look to Albion online, you have a big world to explore and a variety to grind, everyday is a different schedule, and you dont survive alone, the game encourages you make friend and socialize. Same New World. And the gate 3 you dont need do right now, you can put lvl 2 your equips only doing g1 and g2. I am sure with your time, you will complete g3
The most interesting thing in all of this is ofc that the clown was originally created in Korea to destroy busses and pugs from progressing. But just like in NA /EU - they realized that it actually destroyed the guilds even more. Because friendships can be very strong in MMOs. To the degree where entire guilds quit and move on to another adventure. This did not happen as much in Korea, just because Koreans have only 2 or 3 modern MMOs they can choose from. The western market is totally different when it comes to options of MMOs to play. And that is why a badly designed raid like the Clown can get a lot of players to move on to more enjoyable experiences in new MMOs.
sorry to tell u this game is not for casual players like me or even you i can’t even form a static group cuz ppl are already asking for 5 time clear what a joke i do G1 and G2 .
g3 ? no way with the toxic ppl wanna quit after 1 death what a great friendly game
i said this game is not for casual players like me
just cuz u call urself casual who spend 10 h trying to clear a gate dosen’t mean all casuals like u
I play two times a week Wednesday and Sunday. For clown and every legion they add on launch I just add a Saturday for the first two weeks, I mean if that is not casual what is it?
first think they ask when i join is that if u cleard the raid 5 times some ppl quit after 1 fail back to find new lobby and tbh its not that easy u spend time to get into a group and the pain start all over again at the moment i clear just G1 and G2 i don’t wanna get into drama with ppl maybe 1 day i will be able to make friends
If a guild have an “elite” then good for them but if the others are all slow progging then great everyone goes at the same pase and the game is still the same for you and your guildies besides the elite ones.
If an “elite” wants to pug or just clear with other “elites” don’t be toxic and let him play the way he wants.
If a friend is a beast at climbing mountains without safety things would he invite his unskilled friend to do that activity with him so his friends dies or survive with an horrible expierence? NO.
Just keep doing your things together vykas/ valtan with friends and let people tryhard clown the way they want.
I have cleared about 6-7 clowns each week with different people… I am not going to sit in a group with someone who gets hit by every mechanic and turns into a clown early or dies…
the game has rehearsal mode until they can either
A) hone up to push more damage to avoid random mechs
B) wait for their other guildies / friends to gear up more with lvl 2 sets
C) pug it and be in hell for 5-15hrs like some of our original groups were
D) Quit
You could ask the group you already killed g2 with to proceed to G3.
Or make your own group and tell them to prepare to stay for at least “set amount of hours” and if there is no progress you replace some people. This way you ll get people with same mindset.
Maybe you won’t clear first day but from the ones you ll go with after some tries you ll notice who is good and who is bad, then next day you reinvite them and eventually clear it, that is how statics are formed usually btw.
This. Everyone want to get carried but people who didn’t clear the thing should do a group and learn as every single one of guys who now are clearing in 1 hour or less with their mains.
There is no way to be carried here untill we get lvl 10 gems and ancient gear