I am a new player myself and i liked that we could die if the group doesnt work together and i dont think that they had to change the dungeons, looking up a 2min video of each boss was enough for me and i think that time can everyone invest, we just needed to understand the wipe mechanics the rest is seeing and dodging x)
but i also have no problems with people that dont do that i will gladly explain it to them but i also encountered people who just doesn’t want to listen, you explain it multiple times to them and in the fight you even ping it if it’s something you can show like that but they just don’t care and making things easier won’t help with these kind of people sry
Maybe they’re just waiting for people to slip up in chat and get themselves banned for abusive behavior. So the rest of us can enjoy the game in peace.
Funny how some people say they want to cater the casual average player to enjoy the game.
Let me tell you something, all this nerfs are business decisions. It’s more money, not some company wanting a below average / average player to enjoy the game.
Retaining more completely out of this world “what’s an mmo?” players is more cash. A time when game developers cared about their game stopped a long time ago. Games were made to be challenging as much as they could without fear of losing money and an average player. I call BS on all that is this nerf update.
It’s okay to lower damage to an extent or alter HP. For example Flame Fox Yoho really had a feel of having too much HP, its a solid nerf, BUT wth with altering / removing core mechs??? @Roxx
Tytalos for example. For me the whole logical point of the mech, being in a tornado, getting STONE SKIN is to not get wiped.
It made it obsolete to an extent. You had to be careful not to step in it before sand wipe release and asap get it after a pattern attack that if you learn will know he does it after… I mean come on, it’s a CORE mech.
Also the brelshaza and meteormech… removed it’s core perk second time it comes around. Person with a circle just standing in place while the X person gets in… it was so interesting… the “reverse”. I find those kind of nerfs sad.
And this play with words for T3 or “future content” it’s just a slap in the face to players.
We are in an era where everything is handed to you on a silver platter. You have every possible guide / site / video explaining stuff for you. Gone are the days where you had to discover something for yourself and that is completely fine, it’s nice to have all that stuff to complete content faster and enjoy it more. But if you are not even reading, watching, checking this stuff and just expect to learn everything by yourself in an MMO, it’s a YOU problem, not the game.
I don’t think any of you want to know that Smilegate has nerfed T3 content multiple times already (not just bug fixes, but actual nerfs) after they got initially cleared. Even the Brelshaza Legion Raid has been nerfed in the KR version, but it’s still hard. You’re all whining over things you know literally nothing about.
Imagine whining because they’re making it easier to get out of T1 and T2 when it’s not supposed to be a wall, the T1 and T2 content are supposed to be stepping stones to T3 which is where the real meat of the game will be.
It’s not just that. I am pretty sure characters were a bit underpowered for level of some of the guardians especially the t2 or more precisely pre-t2 ones. As 580 is not even t2 yet. Because it’s also way harder to have optimized build so early on. Unless you want to really invest in a gear that you are going to recycle very soon. Also barely any access to gems at this point etc. There’s more to it than just bad gameplay.
I’m not asking casuals to complete all the content at the same time. I work a 50 hour week and I’m not really hardcore, I took 3 days off at start though. I’m still in T3. I’m in T3 like 2 weeks slower than my peers who could hardcore it, but I got there. Why do you think I’m entitled to hitting T3 as fast as them, when I don’t put in the time/effort?
They’re not stuck. I have 1 alt. I do chaos dungeons on him daily, that’s about it. He’s T2 and progressing just fine atm. I’ve just literally done the chaos dungeon every day. Players not having alts is completely their own fault since you get 2 free level 50 characters. It takes like 10 minutes to run 2 chaos dungeons and that’s all you need to do to progress.
No, they won’t learn mechanics in T3. If they had any plan to, they would’ve tried in T1 and T2. There’s absolutely no rush into T3, do you think that hypercasuals are able to sink in enough time to clear Argos or what?
Point 8: Yes, so you’re basically agreeing that T3 will get nerfed, nice, kudos to you for supporting shit like this.
Point 10: KR has a LOOOOOT more content on T3 than we do. Player retention was bigger because the game has more to offer, ours currently doesn’t. Also, their players with the western mindset would’ve left. Look up Wildstar if you want to see how western babies look at hard content.
Unfortunate wording or something else but “drastically” means u will alter but not much. So you still gonna change it even if a bit. That’s how I understand your reply.
What else did you expect? If they give a definite no they will get complaints when they want to make changes later, even if the changes where good. You should never decide on something now when you dont know how its gonna workout. Its all about the intention. For now they say that they want to leave as much the same as possible, so how about we wait and see.
I am not that happy with easier T2 upgrade
And not sure how it is in T3 but i would keep it not ‘easier’
I believe those who whine about rates never played other MMO games where your item gets DESTROYED when upgrade failed, and they just want to get to T3, fail boss, and then quit because its too hard…
I don’t want to listen to these 2 week andys players who not gonna play for months. They gonna whine loud for few weeks and then quit for another game anyway
Considering you didnt reapond to anyone and as its my post ill respond to you. I did not whine about them making t1 and t2 content easier. I said dont touch t3 and that ppl need to learn when they get there so that sats and feedback dont get them to destroy it so fast.
I mean, toxic ppl are everywhere. They will always be around and jerks in groups no matter how easy content gets.
Personally though, i dont run into these issues but at the same time people could join a guild to be able to do runs with people who know their situation or know mechs.
That’s for both toxic vets, and new players
Toxic new players also exist. They ones that feel like they dont need to listen, know it all already and know their class so it’s everyone elses fault even when they mess up.
Thats cool and all but likw i said eventually nerfing doesn’t and shouldnt be a month or 2 into launch. Mmos do nerf but not for a while after the content has already been out.
Learning and googling how to do things has legit always been how mmos operate. Rng breaking hearts have always been there. This stuff isnt new.
If people play casually, THAT’S FINE. please by all means play as little as you want but play the game you try to play. It shouldn’t be forced into changes because it takes you a few good tries before you clear or because someone doesnt want to learn.
When you start something New do you not have to learn what to do? How to be better at it? How to receive a satisfactory outcome?
Games have never been any different.
They nerf considerably OLD content yes even in westeen releases when its already been nerfed in other regions. Because u let people enjoy things them nerf that and release new things. Old to kr is still new to us.
So no, t3 as it stands has no business being nerfed since it just came out. If u want to do the content, learn to do the content.
but i also encountered people who just doesn’t want to listen, you explain it multiple times to them and in the fight you even ping it if it’s something you can show like that but they just don’t care and making things easier won’t help with these kind of people sry