Damn the real grind of lostark starts from ancient set.......the amount of shards and mats you need is insane after +20 gears

There is room to catch up a little bit but realistically we are hardlocked a bit by reasonable honing expectations.

The main point for us to catchup would be the timing on elgacia and Akkan. Every region has gotten Elgacia sooner than the last so there is a chance we get Elgacia as soon as 4 months after Brel Hard. The question is if this effects Akkan timing as Russia got akkan in the same time gap as Korea even when they got Elgacia sooner.

Theoretically they can set an expectation of people to hit 1580 a little faster for us to get Akkan normal which would let us “save” that time that Korea was stuck with just honing to 1615 as a goal for a solid 7 months and alot of people ended up “wasting” materials honing past 1580.

There are spots where we can save a few months of time but realistically we are almost always going to be at least half a year behind korea.

Why do you need akkan hard anyways? Theres not gonna be Esther AND we get that in separated date from normal you you might be full akkan ancient by hard release… Other than bit more gold why would you do hm?.. In fact by that time id be doing akkan normal/ brel hard 1-4 / clown (skipping all in all gates) for gold earns

If you want to play tankier classes like Gunlancers, Bonks, Scrapper or Wardancer thats fine. For everyone else…just deal with it. Reason being is If you would lower the damage it prolongs the fight. Making it more likely to die eventually or facing mechs more often. G6 hard is a perfect example. Dealing with meteor placement over an expanded period of time is more troublesome than dodging stuff.

What it honestly and truely comes down to is will people continue to care enough to keep this grind up in 4-6 months from now.

Can it be done? Of course it can. Is it an overly enjoyable and fun experience to do? Not really, well at least not for most.

Will players stay motivated to push through 4 months of “More Brel” where there isn’t any other new content and Brel HM isn’t a huge motivator (since it’s just more brel).

That’s really the killer question for me. It’s not can I do it, it’s do I have the motivation to keep doing it at this point :frowning:

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I like seeing big numba and taking minimal damage YEP

But to be honest. Every Game is the same. The momment u start play End Game and you are on Farm. There is no much to do and just repeat week after week.

The only thing what LA have not like other MMOs is that LA is not to old. So there is not alot of Horizontal content.

In WoW for exampel if u realy are bored u could just farm mounts for years without bothering any other things.

I wish we could get Elgacia with HM Brell or 1 Month later just only the Content. For like 1 month. And then 1 Month Later Kayngel maybe. This would be fine. And 2-3 Months Later Akkan NM/HM since we know what the GS requirements are. People dont FOMO to hard like in KR. And after Akkan 1 Month later Pretzel. Cuz this content and we stil are in 2023 so next would be the new Raid (idk the name). And copium that its only Thearmine what KR get this year. So we are only 1 Raid Behind 2-4 Months behind.

But since SG wants to milk the Regions i doubt this “catch up” ever happens. And i dont mind for me West Version feels like Classic in WoW. So KR LA is like Retail.

Based

There are huge differences between most MMOs and Lost Ark.

Each character you create in another MMO has it’s own story, it’s own experiences, the path to the end game, which likely will be hundreds if not thousands of hours of play time is unique for each alt you make. The professions they choose to pick, how they spend each day is different.

In LA, every alt you make is a carbon copy experience. You do (or skip) an identical story, you run 4 identical dungeons to farm identical set materials while running identical dailies.

Yes, every MMO eventually ends in a content drought and game play loop. Lost Arks started at 2 days after launch, where finished North Vern story and started the repeated chaos/guardian/una/procyon loop we continue to repeat to this day. But at least they developed a world around it for back then. You had T1/2 islands and lots of reason to explore the world in the early days.

Outside of your daily loop in other games you have thousands of hours of side content, leveling professions, grinding rep, farming rare drops/mounts/pets/etc. Lost Ark was building around something like this, but they dropped it at T3 and went all in on Raid Simulator.

So yes, you are right. End Game is the same across all MMOs eventually, the difference is LA starts at end game and just walks in a circle, where a traditional MMO takes the player on a journey to get there.

maybe future content helps with this, but until future content is available on NA/EU to play, it might as well not exist.

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w.e point was he was talking out his ass like I do joking
it doesnt take 6 months to do new content gear up
As AGS stated they are purposely dragging things out
People were +20 Brel Weapon 1st week of Jan
Boom so ppl were Nuking Brel since Jan.
Now the idc FOMO casuals catching up well March per usual F2P always 1-2-3 months behind whales

:person_shrugging:

Ignoring the statement after from el effe prob clueless what his subordinates do.

OK, but, why you need upgrade more than 20??? akkan will come with sof reset

idk im not
Not going pass 1560

My DPS can wait idc population will drop at endgame too
Fuck chores

Yes but from HM Brell until akkan i assume its gona be a gap from 4-6 Months cuz Elgacia with kayangel for lvl 3 upgrade.

So all the ressources a player gona get its gona be for pushing something or making more alts.

If u wana play cheap like me just upgrade everything +19 maybe 1 armor +18 and weapon +20 and hold everything on the char then akkan release.

Or u go everything +17 and soft park on 1560 and stack up bounded ressources like always until 1 week bevor akkan release.

But many people gona want to be 1580 anyways to do Kayangel HM 3 to gain the max ressources out of it. (maybe i dont know)

I know it’s expensive, I won’t argue with that, but it’s doable, it depends on how many characters you have and how you use them.

One character that you do things every day (besides Guardians), generates bound mats that make them keep up with content. Depending on your luck while honing, however, you might need to use the gold it generates to buy mats to give a last push.

The time investment becomes smaller if you have characters that are pushing mats/gold to this character. You wouldn’t need to do chaos dungeons every day (if you do only with rested, shards and silver might not be enough in the end) if a second characters is purely generating silver for your account, and you need to keep managing things…

It’s expensive to go to +19 right now, but we don’t need to reach it right now, even if you go to Elgacia while not at 1580, you’ll still farm mats to upgrade your gear, only with Akkan it’s really important to be at 1580, and that point is still too far away.

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That’s why I ain’t going past 20 on anything but my main’s weapon. And I’m only doing that so people can recognize my glow and say “unga bunga me take this guy.”

Well, and the damage. Actually, it’s the damage.

yes, but 1580 are ±20, not more than +20. What the guy in the post is talking about, is about putting it above +20, it’s stupidity/stupidity go above it.

Naw, 19

You dont, thats the point.

You do it just once when you hit 1600 for the experience and thats about it.

theres no experience… it is the same raid with a couple of more mech, boss hitting harder and having more hp and so consuming more of your time so no ty… lost ark is not getting 1 more minute out of what it takes now a days…

Look at vycas in term of “exprience”… its just velganos on g1 which you skip now a days anywyas, and medusa in g3 which again you skip so… it is not really any difference exprerience from normal

the experience im referring to is Akkans last stand. which is a phase completely different from what previous raids got.

15k gold for g5 and g6 on 6 characters.

Is a lot more than the valtan nerf ppl are mas about