Let’s say there are no busses, it’s still the same number of people looking or doing brel. It’s due to decrease in dps player population and increase in support (artist) population.
*Note, to compensate for an increase in 1 support, there needs to be 3 additional players playing dps.
it’s because before they thought there was llack of support, but there was never a lack of support for anything. Now it has too much support, and people are understanding that there was never a lack of support.
The problem is that each support now takes MUCH MORE DPS than we needed support when we were DPS.
Oh yeah, before artist came out, there was already an excess of support for lower content, so given time they would reach Brel. (during that time, it was 30 mins to an hour waiting for a support for Brel, but Valtan/Vykas Hard lobbies usually already have supports in the party - I never checked clown)
i guess all people that were waiting for a support before artist dropped were all imagining it
Highly doubt it, on the contrary the number of players has gone up. It’s really because of the structure of the game, it’s 2 supports for 1 pt of 8 players. If you have a LOT of support, you don’t have enough pts. It’s simple.
And it was to be expected, a lazy culture was created “support only needs 3-4 engravings” “support is gold free”, hence the opportunity for players to create this “gold free”, they created, which generated this problem.
There’s not that many busses if you think about it. The amount of content/raids players has to do on their 6 gold earners outweighs the alts they can buss. It takes a lot of time out of your schedules and plus bussing takes a lot of time to get everyone situated. Also a high chance of not succeeding first attempt, meaning no gold, free buss.
The current dps shortage is only temporary and expected to go away once the express event end. People will likely drop their new support alts when they no longer have engraving support and need to gear the alt.
The game overall still have more dps than supports, especially in end game content. Dps shortage is not an actual issue. Although competent dps shortage is very much a thing.
Bussing is a whole different debate. It contributes to inflation (by generating extra gold), lower overall game knowledge (too many people get bussed/carried and then think they can do the content on their own, only to jail others), and make it more difficult to find proper raid lobbies (some raids are flooded with bus lobbies, especially after new class release).
Don’t know about the number of players, but there was definitely a drop of players from when Vykas hard was the highest content to after Brel came out (I started to randomly see the same players I know in islands, guardian raids, etc…, and now it’s a semi-common occurence in NAW at least). Actual active population (assuming 4 alts) based on the clear stats Amazon provided should be within the 15k-20k range total with little error, rest are bots xD Fortunately still reasonably healthy.
You people still think that the only people who are taking busses are people with no knowledge?
Sorry that I’m busy IRL and can’t do it myself.
AGS ban me please… ffs y’all are ridicolous
Technically he didn’t say all people who are bussed have no game knowledge xD
No.
The PF looks normal at daytime, when everyone is sleeping thats where you see 4 bus parties just like the pic you shared.
Assumption much? I said busses contribute to the problem, I never said everyone who buy bus lack game knowledge. No need to be so defensive about something that wasn’t intended to be targeted at you.
It’s the same. People want to try out new classes. The next patch of release class are all DPS and if anything, there will be a shortage of support again.
The population right now is fixed. There are no new players coming in. So we will have a % of population going to make the new class regardless if it is support/dps to generate some quick gold (engraving, tripod, etc.) then they will drop that and go back to their main. Some will stay with the new class. I reckon a lot of people will stay with the new DPS.
Well sorry then.
Its just triggering to see “bus” and “lower / no gameknowledge” because it usually ends up putting all the people into the same group - which obviously isn’t the case. Though I cant deny that theres alot of unexpierenced people taking busses and don’t bother to learn the mechs
Its not lack of dps
Its lack of good dps because lemme tell u there is a huge diff between good dps and bad dps
Same with supports
There was never lack of support.
There were lack of support players who were willing to join lobbies full of shit geared dps players who do negative dmg and most likely jail others.
There was never a lack of dps. Here’s a trick or hint, put 1 juicer as your bait in your party. 1520+ let the bait do the work. 
they are doing bus because people buy
there was never a real of lack of dps, it’s more likely lack of carry dps. Most groups want overgeared dps to join. As a result, on ilvl dps are obliged somewhat to buy busses & not spend 10 hours in jail or lf group. So it’s a community issue.
its not a dps/sup shortage, its people shortage, game is dead 