those who aren’t scared of criticism use them to improve their performance real time, those who are use them as an excuse as to why they don’t get into groups. I see potential value myself, and no effect on toxicity as the same thing happens now when forming groups and we have no meters. the evidence used to make those decisions is just less accurate
The few people who use a DPS meter for improvement are irrelevant compared to the mass majority who would use it negatively.
yes very different that what you are presenting like i said haha. ty for clearing that up
Np
Clearly untrue.
- Large parse data shows what classes are under or overperforming for balance.
- Seeing your damage breakdown will help you prioritize abilities for a better rotation.
- Seeing party damage breakdown can help raid leaders evenly distribute the dps for encounters like vykas gate 1.
Etcetcetcetc
There isn’t anything untrue about my statement.
I just listed 3 examples off the top of my head.
What you listed doesn’t make anything I said untrue, Sure some people can use a dps meter in a good way that’s great. That doesn’t change the fact that the majority of players would use it negatively as in to flame other people and be toxic towards others. What I said is not untrue in the slightest.
- its not negative or toxic you aren’t entitled to a group spot for any reason, and these same things you call toxic happen right now without meters, just more bad decisions are made, ask a good floorslinger lol. find one you mesh with and avoid the ones you don’t. this isn’t a meter issue imo. and 2) I was only replying to the “no value and toxicity” statement to point out the value, I really have no thoughts if its worth it or not because I usually follow guides made with the info gathered from meters anyway, I look for criticism on myself to improve, and I don’t see not getting a group spot as toxicity, so it makes no difference to me personally
From the first line of your post the rest is irrelevant is it is already wrong.
that’s a pretty toxic thing to say bud xD
“Dps meters provide no benefit”
30 seconds later
“Ok dps meters provide some benefit.”
what makes people think a group has to take you even if its in their best interest? that’s some heavy entitlement there haha
Pls where are talking about inferno, its outfresh in our region…
Most people dont know how to min max every bit of dmg yet, so if u have 1-2 underperformers im pretty sure valtan will go bezerk.
Nobody asks for dmg meter out of inferno mode because hard/normal is mickey mouse content anyway, pls get outta here
And in case we had dmg meter why would u want to teach someone how to minmax dmg anyway when u just can take another Person.
In a static it is normal to teach of course, but if ucant dps or properly support u should practice first before trying to get carried in inferno modes…
No need to be ashamed and not toxic, just 100% real
Guild Wars 2 allows 3rd party dps meters and honestly without it any kind of raid stuff would be very annoying to do and nobody would’ve played that kind of content.
In hard content it is important to make sure everyone can pull their own weight otherwise you’ll just keep failing without knowing who to boot. It is a giant waste of time.
In here I guess they expect you to carry dead weights because everyone is potential spenders and they want to keep them happy.
For a legitimate answer on why their titles are not legit. One of the key differences between Inferno and hard mode is that the boss’s hp is hidden. DPS meters can track damage done and subsequently track Valtan’s hp, removing this aspect of the fight.
This is how you make a legit argument haha
Lets address you’re points.
- “Pretty sure Valtan will go bezerk.” Yes, and DPS meters would help identify which people are under performing.
- “Nobody asks for dmg meter out of inferno mode” That doesn’t address my point as there are numerous people who do play with it… guess where?.. Inferno. If it was ok - then there wouldn’t be a point here would there?
- “You can just take another person.” Yes, they can and do. It doesn’t refute anything I’ve said thus-far.
- “U should practice first before trying to get carried in inferno modes.” Clearly that’s not the issue. Go try to strawman someone else.
people using dps meters to improve and weed out people who are absolutely incompetent and dragging the whole group down?
Thats TOXIC! We can’t have that.
Let’s rather focus solely on p2w metrics that can be purchased with real money to gatekeep like ilvl and gems!
Report anyone using one so they can be banned
I repeat my previous request that anyone who even hints that DPS meters are good should also just be banned as well…they are almost without question toxic players the game will be better without
There isn’t a single game that hasn’t been ruined by DPS meters and the crazed filtering people apply based on the data which often times is only half the story