…What? Dungeon Fighter, Dragon Nest, Vindictus, Mabinogi, Continent of the 9th Seal, Record of Lunia War, Ragnarok Online, Atlantica, Blade and Soul, Granado Espada, and pretty much every other Korean MMO ever made. All of them launched behind on content, and most launched behind on class counts.
Most of them stay behind too. The only ones that release with anywhere close to all the content are games that launch in the west early in their lifecycle, Lineage 2 for example. Most games don’t fit that pattern though.
I get that people really want that dream class that they haven’t even played, but this is pretty much standard issue for western releases of Korean MMOs. And there’s good reasons for it, as providing regular content updates helps player retention.
@SeraphLance most of the games you listed are either dead or on life support. Many are seen as extremely p2w as well by the general populace so not exactly metrics any company should be thrilled to follow.
BDO, as much as many hate it, is now around a 1-3 month gap behind KR depending on how content is implemented at times. And LAO RU and JP are mostly caught up to KR right now. RU got Brelshaza and Sorc right around Christmas and JP is getting Sorc and Kouku Saton i believe?
As for classes as content for player retention. Bish please. New classes absolutely but re-releasing old classes as new content isn’t player retention it’s just a low-hanging cash grab that people aren’t going to appreciate. You know what increases player retention? Playing the class that you enjoy, not being forced to main a class you don’t enjoy for months while people who got their mains sit there and tell you how you should feel lol.
Little Timmy who loves how a traditional assassin plays and the fantasy of it is going to wait for Reaper. If he stops playing he’s not going to see Destroyer release and come back like “man I’m so glad they released Destroyer!” He’s just going to keep chilling. Destroyer for an example is almost the polar opposite of the ideal class for a player like that being slow-moving, clunky at times, male even etc. So no just arbitrarily releasing classes will not increase player retention.
And in case you didn’t notice the other thread got 13k votes which yes is insignificant now but these are players who cared enough to go on forums and 3rd party sites to vote that their class isn’t in the game. These are the people most likely to stay even through the bs of AGS releasing our game while cutting content out of the release so losing those players as well would hurt. Shit if Summoner takes longer than 3 months i might go back to RU for a while and I’m somone who’s dropped around $4k on the game already. How many of me do you think AGS or the f2p can afford to lose?
Yeah, I don’t think holding onto classes solely because you want to give people a reason to come back is a good idea.
Those classes are out and in the game, why not just make them available? Instead make vertical content release a way to get people playing and coming back.
I am sure someone else said this but this is my suggestion and this is what I am doing currently.
I have 3 T1 alts just farming naruna points and T1 upgrade mats thats tradable. Because I want to play Scouter and Arcana. I also have 1 T2 1 T3 just gathering mats and selling them for gold.
I am not in a rush for end content because even in KR servers it takes people to get use to the new fights and encounters. meanwhile there are people willing to pay any price to beat the boss. Ethereal Gear in the future. I am going to let them spending gold and get them as much as possible so when it’s my turn to hone my stuff I have enough money and mats. Lost Ark don’t give a shit about p2w players and they always get burned and whales don’t mind because they will spend the money regardless of the what the system is.
Reaper is awesome except they need def upgrade for end game raid. I know they are currently working on the class mostly for 2022 and I am hoping for the best on Arcana and Reaper.
Just be prepared for what’s coming this game is not going away tomorrow. Prep does suck but for the goal I want to achieve it’s nothing. too bad that your friends quit. come over to my server you can join my guild lol
And how you know it’s all done? And if it’s actually not done, y’all going rage all over again for different reasons.
You know currently we start at level 10 with specialized class and hit level 50 easily. Even for casual.
I mean you and all who rants on feedback already had the mind set on AGS is drip feeding with no base proof just listing things missing from NA/EU vs KR/RU in 1 month, 2nd month starting. This is called unrealistic demands. The game is picking up the pace and here you all are, rushing content, making comparisons to OG becauseyou VPN to play before and then make complaints based on differences. The only games out here that have everything done and go on global release is SP games, and even now many release at 75% done and add stuffs here n there and MP mode as DLCs.
For anyone who care, drop off. MMORPG is by nature not for rushing contents. You all playing this genre so wrong or at least play like SP.
Look for Gold River’s crown interview. They have tons of contents ready to go. If anything, considering we already have sorceress (last class before Artist), maybe what we have must be up-to-date with the content up to when she release in KR.
Getting level 50 is nothing. Even if you start a fresh character, it takes like 10h to get to T1. What he meant is that the longer it takes to get missing classes, the more content we’ll have and more annoying it’ll be to make new characters surpass our current “mains”.
Nobody here is asking for them to rush content, becaaaaaaause… Classes are not content
If anything, most people here would be fine if they delayed legion raids a bit more as long as we get more classes and our mains before that.
And yet they said themselves they want to catch-up with Korea, meaning they want to and will rush content for us.
Not that I don’t care about classes, but making complaints about classes not release is very immature and you all pretty much making almost identical posts or reply to making it unlikely to happen sooner than you wanted.
So shut up and play something else if this game troubles you so much @zrexblue
@Swan_Goddess oh look i didn’t even have to prove you wrong someone else did. And it’s ironic that you are telling us to play another game when all the top content creators that actually played this game in KR/RU/JP are pretty much unified in saying release the classes. It’s been in Stoopzz’ stream title for about a week now, Saintone said on stream holding back the classes for no reason isn’t going to increase player retention. Zeals talks about it daily. The irony is many of these content creators are the ones doing the partner program with AGS for our region. Ever feel like maybe you’re the one in the wrong? Imagine telling me not to play lmao i pay to play this game do you?
This is quite literally how every mmo in existence has ever released classes. They start with base classes, then slowly release new ones to keep people busy with. With asian ports, literally every single time, they will wait a long time to release the most current classes in their market, so dont base your gameplay on something going on in a completely different market that is way ahead of us in content,
People are extremely rude and pretentious, think they know it all and move their SP playstyle to MMORPG and demands everything from the start to be available and asking nerfs left n right.
The mental gymnastics you do are quite interesting to see. The people with extensive knowledge in this game, making the guides you all use are lying according to you? Who are you again?
The funny thing is just you and other snowflakes are on a crusade against people trying to make sure they release this game as it’s supposed to be. The content creators, the Korean playerbase, the people who played other regions and the ones who just generally know when they are being jerked around have all spoken up. If AGS/SG thought they were in the right they never would have posted that Update two days ago to begin with apologizing. So clearly they understand that we as players do have that right to voice our discontent and adjusted accordingly.
You clearly never played this game before so i can’t even ask you to link a Brelshaza clear in RU to qualify to tell me not to talk on this/play this game but i mean please continue to make a fool of yourself. MMO’s aren’t for me? Please enlighten me as to how you get Hallucination set? What is the percentage rate of honing it? I lack patience? How low is the rate to upgrade quality? Link your +10 gems and +4 tripods. Sit down
and to the above, @massaoso this game has been ported twice already with none of this. Meaning AGS intentionally chose to do things this way. We could have had a faster class release and the content in the game like other regions had launched with but they decided to slowroll it and maximize profits and people called them on their BS. Guess what? RU has caught up to Korea. JP is about a few months out. Everything you are saying is conflicting with the vision that Goldriver has to get global releases. Just pure AGS shilling. Maybe you need to go watch the interview video too
Let’s see how you manage a game - oh wait you can’t and not qualified.
I wouldn’t call that an apology, but since you think you’re always right just because you VPN played KR/RU and believe that you have the absolute say how game will run on global version, you do you I’m not your mom. But one thing for sure is majority western players voicing concerns often comes with mockery, defaming and explicit wordings that is just out of bound and common respect.
The wait would not be as painful if less materials were character bound here that are roster bound in the full version of the game. (KR/RU/JP)
I’m not even at the point this matters yet, and still left wondering how much I will really do with these other classes until the ones I am interested in are available here. ( Like, say, Summoner.)
bro, how long have you worked at AGS? you realize a criticism of thr company is not an indictment of its employees.
why are you so stridently in favor of AGS here? at this point a majority of people commenting on the topic are in favor of speeding up the rollout of classes. even Smilegate stated in their letter to us, that they want to speed up the roll out.
you are the reason we have stupid in game issues like this. people like you settle on crumbs when you deserve the cake.
I also dont understand why they need so much time to release the other classes. They dont need to create new content since its basically already there…
I want the Painter class but i fear i gonna have to wait a very long time before i can finally play it
