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When you play Thirst, you enter in “Chaos” state (when your identity bar is red) and it gives you 15% crit chance & 10% movespeed, that’s why you play Raid captain.
But you don’t enter this state in Moon, so basically, you have only 100% movement speed.
on moon you enter shadow state where you have 30% move speed tho
I am just not sure if when you use red skill while stealth the hit will apply the bonus move speed as dmg from raid captain or you will exit stealth first and lose the move speed boost and then hit
hi, where can i find more guides like this for other classes? i am looking for inferno builds.
Wow nice I will use it thanks
near the top there are the other discord commmunity guides. I can vouch for the Scouter and Striker guides they are pretty good.
Would be the catch all option. Some of their builds are really bad tho. I know that the Machinist Evo build is memed on pretty hard by some Machinist players as it uses Core Energy on Annihilation mode. The Maxroll builds are a good starting point tho and some are better than others.
Maybe the first hit, but sadly the 3 spell you’re using arent just an insta single hit.
One you jump before, so you lose
The 2 other are little damage => Big hit
Raid cap is unplayable on Moon
No KBW, your overall crit chance is too low to make it work properly.
Try this:
Thirst 3
Ambush Master 3
Grudge 3
Raid captain 3
Cursed Doll or Adrenaline 3
You can also go for Cursed Doll 3 and Adrenaline 1 or 2.
Cursed doll on 1 or 2 works (only) when your gear is on high quali while Adrenaline has like zero downside on lvl 1+
But I want moon
with adrenaline 15%, back attacks 10%, Thurst engraving 15%, item set 20%, cards 7%, you get 67% crit rate with 0 from starts. you can easily make it like 90% crit rate with no effort so i think KBW is great
But I want moon talk about moon 
moon got tripods for crit rate. so KBW is a must there
You can play with CD tripod to replace the crit tripod.
KBW isnt a “must” because you play entropy, and entropy + KBW is bad.
You only take it when you don’t have any other choice.
70% critrate, if you play entropy, KBW only gives you between 11 & 13% overall damage.
Cursed doll is more
Raid captain is more
Adrenaline gives more
Also, you don’t play 7% crit rate card set at this point if you had a “normal” progress of your roster overall.
Now, you always play LoS, or, before the 30, you play 3 Umar + 2 Lazenith.
with 100% crit rate - having only KBW without entrhopy set is increase from 200 to 250 crit dmg which is 25% total dmg increase.
Having Enthropy with KBW is increase from 260 crit dmg to 310 which is around 19.2% dmg increaase
so yes - KBW is a must
You never have 100% critrate.
Because even if you are not far from it, you then switch tripods for CDR on red skills.
Left is crit damage, on top are the crit chance.
Entropy 60% crit dmg + KBW 50% = 110%
You generaly play Half/half Swift Spec in Thirst, which mean 0% critrate with stat.
10% from the back attack, 20% from entropy, 15% from Adrenaline, 15% from Chaos =
60% crit rate
Graffiti get a tripod with 40% critrate lvl 5, which mean 100% critrate on THIS SKILL ONLY.
As other red skill don’t have tripods with crit (Except spear but you take cdr in thirst)
Which mean 11% damage upgrade with KBW, except on 1 red skill where you get 13% damage upgrade.
I didnt do this board, but he’s used as a reference in KR.
So i guess he must be correct 
well calculating from this table for 100% crit rate (since its easiest to calculate) the table shows dmg increase of 15.652% for KBW from 260 to 310, and in reality it is 19.2 so would say this is not accurate.
Also why would you go 60% crit rate with Enthropy? The diff between crit and non crit is 160% dmg increase. You wouldnt compensate this dmg with any swiftness.
All i wanted to know if my
Plan is good or not
Can you tell me
If it’s good plan ?
Stat max spec and swift only necklace,
And engraving will be like that
3 grudge
3 keen blunt
3 adrenaline
3 ambush master ( for the back attack if I won’t worng by the name)
3 moon class engraving
well looks great in theory.
With just 1 small “But” - The class is 1 of the 2 most squishy classes in the game (and the other is ranged so this will be the hardest class to survive with from all), You can choose Grudge engravings if you meet 1 of those requirements - Either You are over leveled for any content you play so you can survive with sheer over gear stats - Or you are certain in your skill that you can dodge almost all skills. The thing is just surviving is not enough since if you focus on staying alive your dps will fall drastically. You need to be able to apply your full dps while dodging the boss hits (and always hitting the red skills on back attack). If you cant do this better dont choose Grudge.
Also i am not sure how much crit rate you will get from the crit rate tripods from red skills when they are maxed (they start with 40% at lvl 1, but idk what it is at lvl 5). With Enthropy set + back attacks you get 30% crit rate, depending on the crit increase from tripod skills you may go over 100% crit rate with Adrenaline, so if this happens maybe some other engraving would be better
Gotcha need to see
it shows 16.8% which is the correct value, you are forgetting that kbw has a 10% chance to deal -20% dmg
on thirst the arguably best 5x3 you can make is thirst, raid captain, adrenaline, ambush, grudge
also on moon the crit tripods are 2x 40% on lvl 5 and the weakest red spell of the 3 is 60% on lvl5 so adren is fine, overcrit on only the weakest spell
thats exactly what im going for too and its fine to play swift if youre playing adren 3.
Also i am not sure how much crit rate you will get from the crit rate tripods from red skills when they are maxed (they start with 40% at lvl 1, but idk what it is at lvl 5)
2 Red skills start at 15% lvl 1 and one of them starts at 30% lvl 1. Those 2 go up to 40% crit rate at lvl 5 and the other one to 60% crit rate at lvl 5.
