Explosive Expert engraving

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Yes, it does.

It’s just that combining the low odds makes good items really hard to get.

Today I got a 90 quality +5 grudge +3 adrenaline neck…with expertise and domination.

Eg: Valtan will have better odds for engravings than chaos dungeons.

No, raid stuff only has better quality. Chaos dungeon stuff is weighted towards low quality, legion raid stuff is almost always above 70. But the odds for stats and engravings are the same.

The only other than that’s better is chance 5+3 instead of 3+3 or 4+3. You can’t even get 3+3 relic from legion raids, much like you couldn’t get legendary 2+2 from abyss. While chaos dungeon dropped plenty of 2+2 legendary.

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you know the funniest thing of all? In the future, when we have 6 complete engravings and the possibility to use 7th engraving , the support will probably use this lol

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It was used in Hell Kakul Saydon in KR by a party

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Oh for sure, I have seen good drops. Was just curious if it was all weighted even or if they were intentionally skewed to help maintain rarity

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Damn. Too late I already mailed it to some random guy. I should’ve held onto it then.

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This very usefull in terms of GvG. Throwing extra battle items is one key to win the war.

Just my opinion.

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Is it more useful? Sure. But there is an opportunity cost.
Is it more useful that pretty much any other engraving? Nah.

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Used in hellmode on supports to throw more dark nades and other consumables to improve raid/party DPS.

Darknades is effective for 20sec for all 8 members of a raid. 3 more of these guys can make a noticible difference.

Also a specific bomb used in vykas as well(no spoilers).

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Hahahahahaha

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Can be * not everyone uses it, and in general it is not very necessary.

Edit: anyway, in hell mode all the conjugation of the build is free because of the book of cordination

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It doesn’t need to be necessary or meta but rather an option. Too bad most content do not use it as damage gates are a lot more lax.

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Support has the option to use it actually, later raids have harder destruction/ stagger check values and buffing your whirlwind and destruction bomb can be useful.

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Because of this use vital point, not explosive. Vital point in the slot of heavy armor.

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Can you explain it a little bit more why is it not that useful?

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Bard has good stagger, but on a paladin VPH won’t make a difference, like ever.

I get around 10% party stagger in 8 man raids and I even have both legendary overwhelms. Is it worth wasting swiftness and an engraving slot for VPH? To get extra 3% stagger accross the raid? Most definitely not.

If you want VPH via accessories, you’ll have a really hard time finding high quality ones and it’s not worth losing even 50 swiftness total for it.

If you get it with +12 in slot which is cheap, then you have to buy ridiculously expensive combos with two of the three mandatory engravings which have a huge cost.

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It’s a troll ofc

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i can explain!

Look, currently the only class that could even use this engraving would be support.

So let’s get to the points

1 - Currently the support encores are: Awakening, class, expert, drops of ether, vital point and in the six slot (if you have ancient acessories) you run heavy armor 1 or 2 (in bard or artist) and judgment or heavy armor in paladin.

Wath vital point?

To get a basic idea, no stagger in the game is designed for the need for bombs. Yea! It’s not supposed to be necessary, however, in order not to be necessary, all classes need to have their entire stagger rotation. That is, nobody has. So in a larger stagger, it is necessary to use bomb.

But to illustrate better, when you use vital point on a bard, you can give up some tripod or some high stagger skill, and put something more useful or even just have more stagger and give up using bomb just to have another bomb for personal use (dark grenade) for example.

2 I saw a comment saying “but you can take more dark support grenade” Indeed you can! However, each dark grenade lasts about 20 seconds, and it only takes 1 person to throw it. If 4 people take dark grenade, that means we have 4 minutes of dark grenade. That’s enough for almost every fight, and any more would just be despair or waste.

In summary: explosive expert is useless, although there may be someone who will say that it is useful, we still don’t have a NEED to use it. Just like, nowadays, supports don’t need heavy armor before reaching 6 engravings (but it can be used).

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I was asking about why is not useful in terms of GvG.

Im pretty sure I understand how engraving works in terms of PVE.

But thank tho.

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Oh, it’s simpler. In GvG the ideal is you don’t waste time using throwing consumables. It loses uptime and gets in the way when moving. It’s an even more useless engraving in GvG. GvG has more interesting things, the heavy armor itself ends up becoming an encore for all classes there, or fortitude. Among other things. But in the end, what makes the most difference there is ILV.

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It’s not that useful because it has an opportunity cost…if you pick Explosive Expert, you aren’t picking something else. In GvG, any defensive engraving, (of which there are several) would be better than this.