Feedback on this delayed roadmap

After reading through the released roadmap and some of your CM posts on responses here, I feel it’s imperative to offer some “brutally honest” feedback in response.

Context - 600+ hours, vast majority of horizontal progression done, main is 1415, alts getting to 1340-1370 zone, I feel I have played enough of the game to offer a few pieces of feedback.

Green - Personally I am not a fan of events that are used as band-aids to make up for currently gutted content, however I do appreciate these being here in absence of said content without knowing why it was gutted in the first place, so thank you. Hoping the emphasis on gutted content and lack of communication is heard loud and clear, this stuff should have been added with Argos well over a month ago. Whatever motivated the decision to not include it, I ask that this get communicated so that the population of us as rational individuals understand the irrational decision making process leading to this :slight_smile:

Blue - Not particularly interested in any of this but I’m sure this will appease a lot of people.

Red - A powerpass to objectively the worst part of the t2 grind? How is this better than a powerpass through T1? Has anyone at AGS actually played through t2 (honest question)? I guess it’s better than nothing but an explanation for why Punika is off the table would be nice due to the next batch of content coming out being 1415+…

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Awesome, excited to see what other QoL stuff is in store for May! Thank you, great job!

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Very happy with this, will be nice to get away from the lailai spam. Thank you, great job!


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Maybe include community feedback on class names? Lancemaster was a lot more western-sounding than glaivier (which also, by the way, was a more warrior-ish type of soldier than a martial artist). I’ll expand on class releases further down.

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Don’t really have an opinion on Destroyer, have no interest in playing this but hopefully people are happy this is coming out. I’ll expand on class releases further down.

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This needed to come out with Challenge Abyssals a month ago. The fact that this is ANOTHER month out and doesn’t include the other gutted content is asinine. I’ll expand on this further down because it creates a huge problem for current players.

Is it still not understood that YOU artifically manufactured this pressure by gutting required material generation from the pre-Argos game? How is the solution to this pressure problem so mystifying that college-educated decision makers cannot see or admit to this?

Class Release Cadence

Overall, here is what you have as far as class options after these releases:
4 Warriors
5 Martial Artists
4 Gunners
2 Mages
2 Assassins
0 Specialists

I understand the lancemaster release but was this discrepancy not noticed?

I’m a bit biased on this due to too many unknowns. Not entirely sure what the motivation behind drip-feeding classes for the next 6+ months was, but you’re ignoring a very blatant piece of data. You are not the first publisher to attempt to bring a korean MMO over to the west, and past experiences with other publishers have left a terrible taste in the mouths of a lot of us. Not a single damn one of us is interested in hoarding mats or doing dailies for the next half a year in anticipation of a class that we’ve been exposed to for the last year or more. This is a huge deal breaker for a larger number of people than your “data” will account for.

If you were waiting for the major overhaul patches in KR, a simple delay until that patch landed and expediting all current classes (1 per sprint release, a.k.a every 2 weeks) to be released before the summer would have saved you the next 2 months of headaches and player numbers declining. An alternative to this would have been, you know, to be “brutally honest” (your words, not mine) about why the class lineup wasn’t going to be fully realized until this winter. Hopefully this makes sense to other players, too, because I’m too annoyed to make a more objective opinion on this one, though I am open to being wrong due to an actual rational argument :slight_smile:

Overall Opinion

Subpar due to how long this thing was delayed and how many times it was emphasized you guys were taking your time to get things right. There are a lot of good little things coming through, though I feel this “roadmap” speaks more to how tone deaf AGS/SG is to what’s being posted here than anything. You have years of data already accumulated from other region releases regarding issues we are actively dealing with- use it!

More people will quit and never come back and it will be mostly your fault (though a large portion of it will be from past experiences). Western publishers have historically sucked ass at publishing good eastern MMOs (regardless of how good the game actually is) and every single one of you have done the same thing of “claiming to listen to player feedback”. I have not seen one AGS-hosted community poll on anything in this game, nor have I seen any sort of attempt at actually collecting player feedback regarding any of the upcoming patches. This “Feedback” board is more akin to the “Suggestion Box” sticky I put on my trash can at work than anything else, and until you guys decide to have some quality discussion with anyone in the community, you will continue to lose the trust and financial support of your playerbase.

Right now it feels like we’re being treated like an row in a database, it would be nice to be treated as a player by at least one publisher on the market right now.

No tl;dr sorry!

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Finally - someone else realized that the lack of player progression is because a lot of the content has been gutted for our version. What’s even more insane is that players don’t/can’t realize this and praise AGS for giving us scraps to fill in the gaps they have created.

I don’t feel like AGS/SG has listened to any of our feedback and are just doing things that look good on paper, but in reality, are awful and not fun.

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I think they’re listening on the little things (QoL stuff mainly), but the BIG things (classes, horizontal content missing, etc) is just being ignored. Assuming they listened to feedback regarding the community poll which had ~13.5k people participating, they listened to Lancemaster being most desired, but completely ignored the first poll about class release cadence. Their current decision reflected 19.2% of the population who participated while ignoring the almost 70% of people wanting all classes within 3 months.

Even an explanation as to why they’re refusing to release certain expected things in the base game would prevent 90% of the posts on this board.