Game is more P2W than Black Desert

right now people are paying to fail. which is fucking hilarious, wouldn’t class that as winning. only difference between f2p and p2w is p2w have more attempts

Maris shop literally allows players to utilize their in-game gold to make purchases through this system. It’s one of the most friendly F2P aspects of lost ark, sometimes it’s worth you using Maris. Sometimes it’s not.

Lost ark also allows you to buy crystaline aura with blue crystals making it even easier for F2P to play the game with the QOL.

BDO your weapons break. So all your hard earned cash is likely to be wasted anyway. lost Ark has a pity system and does not break your weapons.

OP you’ve got to do some research before making silly claims. This was not a well constructed argument, not even in the slightest.

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I mean you’re right, but I dont think that whales really care. Find it more hilarious when obvious whales pretend to be f2p :rofl:

:rofl: :rofl: really?, i haven’t come across any whales claiming to be f2p but then again im only 1334 on my main so not had very many encounters with other players beside chaos / guardians dungeons

Never imagines a game more p2w than BDO? You dont have a very good imagination then lol… This game and BDO are barely p2w. Infact if you think this is p2w then some games will blow your mind lol…

I agree. It really pisses me off that they make the honing mats cost more as you go up in tiers

" another i have no clue how the game works shitpost" hf in bdo

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i Have played both and if you honestly think this game is more P2W then BDO then you’re an idiot that needs to realise what type of money pit BDO is… This game is WAY more friendly to F2P players. The problem? People dont want to grind they want easy progression and will cry if not.
even if there is a shortage of material people have been able to get 1370+ while not paying a cent they just put in a lot of work that people dont have time for.

Go play BDO where your item is destroyed and has no pity system. Realize this post is idiotic and come back and apologize to smile game for saying such idiotic things

And yes this game has P2W elements in it BUT eventually if we get into the game it will get easier.

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Oh boy , How is Lost Ark more p2w than BDO ?

In BDO you need to buy :

Inventory slots , storage slots , Pets and breed them to get T4 , Mount skill change coupon which is too Rng and can give you undesired skill , Tent , Value pack if you don’t want to get screwed by marketplace taxes .

People buy outfits to melt them and get Cronstones/Valkscry to use them when enhancing .

And that is only a fraction !

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What are you winning exactly if it is p2w? Doing a Guardian Raid with the smallest minority of people on the server and then go back to doing the same thing I am doing at 1346?

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This isnt wholly true. Guardian stones are slightly cheaper on Maris and the tertiary enhancement mats are WAY cheaper.

that being said Mari’s shop is not pay to win. beyond the founders packs i havent spent anything and i can regularly buy out the things i need (that are more valuable on the store than gold) .

Nobody cares. Someone else paying something and supporting the game I might add, has absolutely no effect on anyone else’s game.

The rubbish about P2W is meaningless.

Those that can afford to pay do, those that can’t or don’t want to pay are carried. Be grateful someone is paying.

Let me clear up what BDO P2W is like

  1. Value Pack
    (You get more silver from the market and auction house) this costs money and is rarely sold for free

  2. Pets
    having pets can make you from 20M/Hour to 100M/Hour in the same grind spot

  3. You cannot get premium currency from silver

  4. You can buy everything from the market with real money without honing/enhancing at all

  5. Since BDO is a PvP game f2p players get beat up by whales

  6. Lifeskill is also p2w since you need value pack to make it worth the time

  7. Boss gear was the endgame gear before they add blackstar to make it so whales are much further into the game

  8. The richer gets richer because they have access to better grinding spots compared to f2ps because f2p is slow

  9. Skins give additional effect (like stats) and you basically cannot buy a skin from the auction house

Sincerely,
A F2P BDO Player that quit.

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My honest and deepest condolences.

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What are you waiting for to return to bdo? I’m a little short of reaching 1370 without having to pay a single penny. without class 3 islands, without more of the new content that they will put this Thursday. go to bdo and collect many fails, hopefully your weapon will not break or your refinement will drop as in the lost ark.

And to buy in mari shop you do not need to pay real money. that you don’t have gold in the game is your problem.

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Maris shop is basically just an AH that sometimes has better rates, so i dont know that i see the issue.

Just convert gold to blue crystals if the deal is better…

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

NO im sorry but no . UNTIL THEY let us destroy skins for honing materials and can buy them unlimited times esp the bundles then no this game isnt p2w .

I can tell you’ve never played BDO , BDO is straight whale heaven p2w compared to the p2 convenience this game has .

In BDO YOU basically HAVE to buy outfits n destroy them for cron stones once you get everything at tri + so your 700billion silver boss armor chest doesnt downgrade from tet to tri . Dont even get me started on jewelry .

At least in this game you cant dmg your armor every fail attempt at upgrading and then having top2w to repair the armors durability to full , nor will your jewelry go poof bcuz we dont need to enhance o ur jewelry thank god .

and you think BDO is less p2w LOL is all i gotta say .

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Noone said you need to spend money, somehow i managed to get to tier 3 on 1 char and 1050ilvl on an alt with only plat founders pack… people are crying about p2w and whqt? Like 3% of ppl git to argos and they need to wwit anyway for next content. There is no need to rush everything. Stop crying about p2w just Play and in near future u will get to t3 and all the content u desire xD i got like 130 honing fails already ofc its frustrating but u have a lot to do in this game that u can enjoy.

Sorry for my english but autocorrect is a biatch sometimes :smiley:

Not even leaps in t3 is worth it on EUC

I mean even Asmongold (The God of MMOS) said the game is p2w.

Here’s the Video:

Lost Ark’s average free-to-play experience - YouTube