I play this game alone, and have been doing so ever since it came out. It seems like the only way you’re going to have any sort of human interaction in this game at all, let alone make friends, is to join a guild or discord group. Other than that, the game is pretty much a dead wasteland with hardly any social interaction. Every time you que into guardians, nobody talks. Every time you do abyss, nobody talks. Even if you join a guild, you don’t get much out of it either, unless you’re in discord groups. There were certain moments where I tried to spark a conversation in villages and nobody ever responds other than afking. There were also moments where I tried to jump into an existing conversation with a group of people chilling over at Nia village in Punika, Feiton, and Vern Castle. I get ignored 90% of the time, especially in area chat. I get that I’m not in their guilds and all, but don’t act as if I’m invisible, and as if I didn’t just run around in circles around you guys asking the same question about 5 times while you guys were talking lmao.
I dare to say that most people want to first just finish their dailies and weeklies, if the players have 6 characters and do dailies on all of them it’s 3 to 4 hours per day + some other hours on weekly content, so i don’t think they want to spend some time talking to randoms in guardian raid.
About talking in the major city, most don’t stay long or stop to write because they are doing their things, there is sometimes that they have a little conversation while waiting for something, but it don’t stay that way too long.
So yeah, the better way is to have a guild or discord group, discord is even better because you know the player and not their one character.
Yeah true. Only other way around that really is if you’re like over 1600 with an insane glow flocking your golden horse mount around. Other than that, you won’t really stick out from the bunch, but that’s like any other MMOs.
l get lots of talking in kungelanium. its usually battle item police getting mad about bombs when theres a system in the game that lets them get exactly what they want but they’re too stupid to use it
Why would anyone bother to use the in-game chat? Especially people who are in guilds with friends. And if you play alone, join a guild with friendly and chill people. If you’d rather join elitist players who aren’t always chill but are for sure good at the game, you can find those too. People recruit all the time in the Official LA Discord, where you can also chat with people from all regions.
As someone already mentioned, most people have multiple characters that they play on. To run through all dailies on 6+ characters takes hours, which doesn’t include the time it takes to do weekly Legion Raids, Argos, Abyssal Dungeons, etc which most people probably do first. This means that chances are they’ve already been playing for a while before starting their dailies. People want to get their stuff done so that they can get off in a timely manner and live their lives. They probably don’t want to waste time in a daily guardian raid talking to random people about random stuff.
Fact is, this isn’t the early 2000s anymore and for the most part, the in-game chats are mostly just used for sharing information that pertains whatever it is people are trying to accomplish in the game, not for actual conversation. If you want that, there are other places for that.
And…? Some people do in fact have social anxiety and are uncomfortable speaking in voice chat. So, is it more acceptable to further ostracize these people from the community because they’re potentially anxious rather than asking for the community to exercise kindness a little bit more?
No, but it classified as ‘MMO’. Social interaction in game with other players was the major appeal back in those days. A lot of older gamers, myself included, enjoy communicating with others in game. Your argument is incredibly strange to me, because you’re telling people playing an MMO game to not communicate in game, but rather other Voip services, and if one does decide to try and talk to others, if they get ignored, well, that’s their own fault.
Like holy heck, does it truly cut into ones playtime so severely that they cannot take the time just to be nice in chat to someone?
That’s because Lost Ark is a solo player Mobile like game with great co-op content.
Sea chat used to be and honestly still is a fun place to strike up a random conversation or to ask any in-game questions you may have.
Most guilds/Servers communicate via Discord which makes in-game chats feel a little dead.
A lot of people here saying that it’s about the game being this or that or that people simply don’t care or have too many dailies to bother typing.
The truth is, this game’s chat system is complete SH*T. When you are always travelling from instance to instance, chat gets completely irrelevant, since it’s designed to work depending on said instance. Specially in Lost Ark, where one “Area” (say Procyon Sea) means nothing to another (like Punika, which is in the Procyon Sea). It’s imo pretty dumb for a chat system.
The system is designed that way and it demotivates its use.
Trust me, if chat was like every other game’s chat systems and like other MMOs, you’d have more people actually using it more often, regardless of their dailies or whatever.
Just join a guild/discord group. My best times in Lost Ark have been with the friends I made along the way.
Welcome to every current mmo ever. Social interaction has moved from in game to discord or teamspeak.
Agreed, the chat system is just there for the sake of being there.
You swap character? Chat log completely wiped. Roster name doesn’t exist so switching character means you have to opt out of any conversation.
Swapping zone? Bye.
Queue to chaos, guardian, raid? you have activated single player mode.
Yeah exactly. The fact that chat is directly connected to instance instead of being a persistent chat makes it completely useless. I would completely understand having it like this for raids, but for every instance…? sigh.
Anyway, the best option some of the players I know have come up with is using the Global Chat feature. We just add members to it as we go and we use it instead of normal/area chat. There you can use Roster Name, it never gets deleted and conversations just keep going.
Like anybody has time to talk to strangers on yellow chat…
It’s not my little pony.
In no way, shape or form did I specifically say not to use the in-game chat. I said that if someone wants to have friendly conversation with other players while playing that the in-game chat isn’t the place to do it. Not because I’m telling someone that they can’t, but because the majority of people either don’t use the chat at all or only use it for communicating vital information that involves the content.
And frankly, I find your argument incredibly strange. You’re basically saying the opposite of what you claimed I said and saying that it’s everyone else’s responsibility to engage in conversation even if they don’t want to. There’s nothing wrong with being an older gamer, but the generation of young adult gamers (which I am apart of) in most cases are trying to get their dailies done and move onto the next task. We’re not antisocial, we talk to people and friends who also play the game. We just don’t do it via the in-game chat.
Nor did I ever said that you did.
Yes, you did express that opinion, just like I expressed mine on how chat existing in game is generally used for, well, generally chatting in game. You claimed it’s only utilized for one specific activity, while I am the opinion that it is utilized for everything related to, well, communicating. We have different perspectives, however, it doesn’t detract from the fact that both options, in game chat and voip, are viable solutions for communication. You saying that there are ‘other places for that’ is where you confuse me, because again, both options are available and are viable. Some may prefer one over the other, but they both exist to provide an avenue for players to engage with each other and one isn’t better than the other because that is subjective to the individual.
You’re taking the point I was trying to make out of context. You stated that people are not generally chatty in game because they see it as a ‘waste of time’ to engage in conversation. So, from your point of view, the reason you offer up as to why people probably didn’t want to engage with the OP was because they simply don’t have time to waste since they have other things to do in game. And that is where I am a bit confused because I honestly cannot see how, going back to the OP’s original complaint, if someone asks a question in game, how typing up a reply to that question is so detrimental to one’s playtime that they’ll refuse to answer because it’ll mean they cannot complete their dailies/weeklies in time.
That is where my confusion is stemming from, because that reasoning just doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
LA gameplay you need rush, no time to talk, just sit in Punika, go to chaos dg/guardian raid/una and jump to your next 5 chars at minium.
LegionRaids and Guardian, press the button and add 3-7 bots to help you, they dont talk with you
If you want see interaction, try Albion Online, here you don’t survive alone and need interaction with others.
I like how people are complaining about the lack of social interactions in the game, whenever they are free to do anything they want. Are you so used to your high-schools where they force everyone to join a group, be together etc.? If you want to find friends in Lost Ark and do raids in discord - nothing stops you. The game gives you freedom, to do that, or, if you don’t want to - just play mostly alone. I don’t get what’s wrong with providing both options to make sure everyone is satisfied. Are you forced to pug raids? Are there no guilds in the game? Is there no friend list in the game? You can join a group to do literally anything in tier 3, except for chaos where it decreases the efficiency dramatically. Just do it if you want to. What’s your problem?
Am I missing something?
What I said is that people generally aren’t going to fully engage in a random conversation during their daily activities because they want to get them done and go next. I know how my generation is when it comes to gaming, which is efficiency and getting things done as quickly as possible.
The OP is not talking about simply asking a question related to the game, he’s talking about having a conversation with people via the in-game chat. And the reality is that people aren’t going to engage in that. They’re either doing their dailies/weeklies and want to get them done, doing something in one of the cities (honing, stone cutting, w/e it may be), or they’re simply afk. You’re completely entitled to your opinions, but you’re going to have to come with a strong argument to convince me that the majority of people on Lost Ark actually do just screw around in cities and talk about random things and that they are simply ignoring the OP when he tries to join the conversation, rather than them not responding because they’re focused on doing something else.
like i mentioned in other thread, there’s nothing to do other than legion raids
Yes. This.
Which is why I said the following:
You yourself said that people engage in ‘actual conversation’ over voip, did you not? That is why I said what I said. My apologies for confusing you, but I really wasn’t saying what you think I said.
I am aware of that, but I used that example to make the point I made because in that particular case, people were not ‘busy’ doing things in game, but standing around talking with each other. Attempting to apply your reasoning of people being to ‘busy’ to engage back simply just doesn’t apply in that scenario.
I believe we’re focusing on different aspects of his complaint. I’m more focused on the experience he had with those individuals that were clearly not afk.
And I believe you’re primarily focused on the portion of his complaint where he is upset that conversation is not occurring during in game activities.
In regards to that portion, regarding people not generally being super chatty during in game activities, I completely agree with your perspective. People do want to get those activities done as quickly as possible and generally are more focused on accomplishing that rather than on being social. That’s fair, and while I do appreciate and engage back when I do come across it, it is certainly rare and I do not expect it.
Regardless, hopefully the OP is able to find some way to have his issue resolved.