Guys, it's confirmed that we have no voice

You can’t raise voice in a communism country. They will silence or kill you if you do so. That’s exactly how these corporates operate.

Every time someone swipes, it just tells AGS/SG that everything is great and nothing needs to change.

I think a big problem with the game is distinguishing the line between “alts” and “mains”

You see streamers with lots of characters that push into Brel territory right now, however for the average base this will be very hard to obtain and do without one of two things happening

  1. Spending all your time grinding and gearing up, to the point where this starts to become a job

  2. Spend money

I think realistically you’re supposed to have 1, maybe 2 characters up to Brel at this point without the factors I mentioned in point 1 or 2

But so many people needed to have their alts “Brel ready” to be able to do the content and reap the rewards

And now you have people who are having to do a 6 gate raid 6x a week with barely enough time to finish everything else

People need to stop thinking that the way streamers are doing it is the right way because for the average person (who likely has a different job and responsibilities) it’s not healthy

Alts should help your mains a bit by supplementing gold and what not, they shouldn’t be the mains too

If it is “lots” as in more than 7+ in Brel territory 1520 is more like whaling. Remember there is a 6-gold character cap. Anything outside it is very difficult to get to that ilvl not impossible but just difficult.

Any streamer that ever claimed they are "F2P’ was exposed or outright banned for doing something shady. That 300K gold necklace sold guy, that multiple deathblade carries run @1475.

Of course, this is different if you see a streamer doing hardcore mode showing their receipts. Some influencers like Kanon are open enough to show their spending habits. Which again makes a lot of sense for them to do so? Because it is tax-deductible and expedites them to do the content. Again for a content creator is a must.

The real question is do you have a “say” on product implementation or in this case content? I’d say no. It is not because you don’t matter as a consumer. It is because the crosshair doesn’t land and you are not the target audience. “Boycotts” don’t work either again due to the fact that the target consumer is generally not you.

Look at my example: If a group wants to change dailies to ONE instead of 2. They just won’t do it because the fact is that some players are willing to spend money to get OUT of it.

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This was confirmed after the first message AGS sent out around argos that claimed they would better communicate with us.

Nobody from AGS with any real say so or power comes around here

I waited seven years for this game. And AGS ruined it. Do you know what that feels like

They can type this “…” in steam and give thumps easy script…

Will you try Blue Protocol, AGS will publish that one too. Maybe it will be better.

Meh, it’s too late at this point, voice or not, the game is nothing but an endlessly chore

I won’t try any of the AGS games

Elo boosts. I personally used to be one ( seller ).

Elo boost is only to show a “title”, the person gets nothing to take an advantage over me when he is playing

AGS sucks, they are el cheapos they can’t even hire good CM’s (CM’s that knows everything about the game and can properly explain our needs to Smilegates)

If you keep leaving good reviews on Google and Steam, and keep buying monthly Crystaline Auras and Skins, your voice won’t matter to them


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They can’t hire their own development team either XD. They have to rely everything on SG doing all the development work when clearly months and months ago, this doesnt work because of miscommunications. However, we dont know what contract AGs had with SG if they even allow their own dev team. BUT i refuse to believe that as big as a company like AGS/Amazon can’t negotiate a deal with SG to make their own dev team. Always the people with business suits with 0 knowledge on how the entertainment industry works like to dictate it through marketing and business practises and end up failing.

I have seen Benji raiding Brel hard with all lvl 5 gems on GL and he raid Akkan on Striker with lvl 7 gems, meanwhile half of the NA rocking lvl 10s already and lvl 8 are norm.

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Remember someone talk about having high quality gear (not accs btw) is a norm too XD like have to have 75+ quality on weapon for brel hmm…

Why would AGS want to do that … have their own devs team instead of using SG… paying devs with California salaries … yeah

That’s what i am saying. They are being el cheapos. If you got someone at the top willing to cheap out really hard, they will do anything to lower budget.

The only way to make ourselves heard is to uninstall the game until they give us what we want. Which is all the classes, ban bots and rmt and fix disconnects. Then go on releasing new zones and raids until we are caught up to KR and RU.