GvG is a joke with only 3 games

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We challenged the S-island owners, Reapers, as you can see here. They made an alt-guild join so that they could guarantee pvp points + bloodstones. This alt-guild wasn’t even a challenge so they fed the Reapers guild for free and we beat them easily as well.

Problem is that we never got to play Reapers so both us and them “won” three times, but they get more points overall due to the MMR difference.

How are we supposed to challenge the island holders if we aren’t allowed to play them? This system is stupid. Please either return 5 games per GvG, or make it so that it’s not possible to never challenge first place.

@Roxx for visibility.

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Thank you for this feedback @Suppression I will send this on for the team to look into.

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Cool thanks. I’d love to hear any response or information on this when you have some response.

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Really unfortunate what happend to you guys.
We have a quite similar issue.
Right now we are holding a S-Island and the last few weeks the competition was very low effort to not say not existant.
Anyway, we actually are motivated to play proper GvG etc. But since mentioned few weeks theres either no one to play against, or some alt guild trying to catch some free gold. Well we just not have them a single point and over 3 games they wont gather enough contribution to gain the second place.
But now people have a new trick. They apply with their alt guild besides their main guild.
So that means either us and their main guild gets one win for free against the alt guild + a free win by default. Basically everything comes down to one game between main guilds. Now we are stomping them and they get 0 points. So usually they should not qualify for a second place to gain gold. But as they just applie with their alt guild, they do. So they are now stealing a good GvG experience by having 0 gear / 0 intend to play the game and they getting their gold for free plus forcing the holding guild to just be there and wait 45 minutes.

Surely its smart from their side to do it because they would not get any gold if they would play us 3 times. But now they are even more motivated to apply with throwaway guilds to just play us once and grab the gold.
I am not complaining but I think this system really needs some extra thoughts…

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Paraphrasing @HoloAri :

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Still laughing, @HoloAri , every time I see the “standard mod response”

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Its Wintrading and you can Report that.

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Same server another S-tier Iland,

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So this is to windtrade ?

GVG is DEAD and nobody wanna play it. At least in our server.

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sure it is Wintrading if its an alt guild

but i dont think your pic is a alt guild from that Winning guild , because they didnt got a single point , which means the loosing guild didnt got a placement
means they did not get any gold at all
Score Zero means someone just set up their guild to do it but wasnt enough players ( 12) to start the fight

when you loose you still get 200 points or something, zero means its not wintrading , just a noob guildleader which did not know he gets punished for activate it

also GvG is alot of Gold every week for that Players, dont know people dont do it , even for loosing its free gold after 45 minutes

dont Forget the Slime and Medaia gives not only that Gold from the Placement , you also get Gold from Holding that Island every week

On strong populated server thats more than 200k gold extra every week :wink:

Rank 1 Gives you 100k for that 16 people who participate and also 200k+ for Holding that from that Event you start at the holding Guild.

300k for 16 people every week sounds good to me for 30minutes time every week

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First of all, do a better research because a lot of the information you wrote here is a lie.
Lie number one: Alchemicy are not alt reapers guild.
Lie number two: The Reapers didn’t ask to be fed, they won it 1:2000+ points
Lie number three: “They made an alt-guild join so that they could guarantee pvp points + bloodstones” If they ask 3rd guild to join to have guarantee pvp points and blood stones. It doesn’t make sense because 3 guilds = someone will get a default = no pvp point or bloodstones.
So you joined at the last minute and now you crying about the game system defeating you.

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Last week the Alchemicy came to the island wanting to have fun knowing they had no chance and that’s what happened.
This week they also decided to come seeing that there was no opponent. Maybe because guilds don’t want to come to pvp knowing they will lose to 0, they won’t get enough points to qualify for the gold reward and it will be a sheer waste of time and items. There’s a reason why the Reapers have held the island since the first week without losing a round.

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If you think that a situation where a much weaker guild signs up for an island to have fun, and a much stronger guild gives you a head start in the form of not using battle items and potions, using auto attacks or fighting 1 vs x, which as a result has no real impact on the outcome of the game, the stronger guild still wins 3:0 . @vollfos

There’s a better chance the weaker guild will come next week to have some fun, and the better guild won’t get the default win three times, obviously you don’t want to destroy the morale of a guild that decided to visit an island no one wanted to come.

Now seriously
Is the fact that your guild didn’t play Reapers because of the stupid game system? Of course

If this is the scenario where both build have same result,but never fight themselves should have some kind of favor for island holder? of course, otherwise it would be stupid.

Is the fact that the Developer doesn’t care about GVG content and reduced the number of games per week, causing even more guilds to see no point in playing this mode and Amazon still not deigning to adapt this content for the western audience, is weak? Of course

Is it that you signed up at the last minute and knowing that this may be the rng result in the case of 3 guilds? Of course

What was the reason for signing up at the last minute, you were hoping that the guild owning the island wouldn’t come fully prepared? I don’t know, but I can guess.

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you are right Bartmor, i thought something like that thats its not wintrading.

i know its still 3:0 my point is , if you dont attend you have that 0 point showing, even with 0 point and attending with 12 people you get loosing points which leads to that minimum 1400 you need to reach the goal of getting gold

but yeah in the end , a guild who just want some gold , its not the Guild who holds the Isle its the team who want to leach gold as second or third place . they hope to get free wins for that minimum 1400 points you need

sad that they didnt change the system how free wins work to the 3 game mechanic which comes from the 5 game mechanics

its almost not possible to get 5 free wins , but three can happen…

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An absolute classic!

Love to see it.

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My suggestion is to make GvG cross server.

Besides the fact that it would allow for consolidation of people who want to GvG, it would also make it waaaay more prestigious if a guild is winning a location.

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Thank you for your feedback @Suppression we will add it to the ignored feedback pile and pass it to the team

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GvG is already a joke with only 3rd party RMT dominating islands but

I agree, ever since the truncation from 5 games to 3, GvG has been even easier than usual for guilds to game, playing it in unintended and uninspiring ways just to earn some meagre guild gold for the week. You should absolutely never have a situation where there are only 3 guilds in a pool and they don’t all fight each other at least once.

Furthermore, add a BoC island for competitive PvP enjoyers, yesterday.

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Agreed. GvG really is a joke with the 3 games, there are situations where if 3 guilds sign up to one island, that you might not face one of the guilds at all and then the initial higher guild rating wins the island, even tho there were no matches played. That’s BS. So far all they have done to gvg was to make it easier for guilds to be afk in gvg and farm their gold (Lower matches from 5 to 3, lower points needed from 1400 to 1000), nobody has asked for that! AGS really got their priorities wrong with all the guild stuff.

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u know that guild sing up at the last minute so the def players cant adapt their strategies or teams according to attacking guild, call it strategy.