They are not.
This… Best example would be Shangra island soul…
I would rather farm peaches and play songs until my finger bleed and the island kicked me out each time
Rather than doing alakkir / spida / tooki and get shitfuck RNG
Hey, thanks for opening a discussion regarding topic!
As many players already mentioned, 1340-1370 road is way too tedious, also we are missing all the extra sources of mats that KR realm has, that includes normalized guardians/abyss/pvp vendor and so on.
Keeping in mind, tier 3 progression is a long process and there’s no big resets or leaps in honning levels once legion raids start. Speed running mmorpg shouldn’t be taken as a main way of playing, but wish devs/publishers wouldn’t force that type of playstyle with pacing of patches
Personally, I’m playing at my own pace currently, sitting at 1350 and using only bound mats. But i do feel like we should get a bit of a boost to honning chances, or at least reduce require mats to progress. Another thing is, at least from my experience, ppl are worried more about pacing of endgame content (as mentioned earlier), rather than chances itself. As far as I’m aware, developers in KR recently had to apologize to players, cause vertical progression pace has gotten so fast, free players couldn’t keep up. Please, try not to create the same feeling our fellow KR friends had not so long ago.
I know it’s a very thin line between group A:“I can’t keep up, too much content!”, and group B:“omg im already 1370, there’s nothing to do”. I just hope this resolves sooner than later.
Peace.
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People are just rushing things, they want to max out a month old game then complain of lack of content, if everyone max out to 1370 next post we will see is “Max out already, boring game no content, I am quitting refund me please”
Max is not 1370, not even close, honing continues to +25 in Lost Ark, most of the end game BEGINS at 1370, this is the fallacy that a lot of folks who haven’t seen other regions don’t understand.
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Adding group C “man…i want to play end game content but my RNG sucks balls and the resources is just not enough. i feel like i waste my time. I rather play other game that respect my time more. /Uninstall”
You AGS team exactly know what to do.
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I’ll start by saying, I love this game. I play 8-12 hours most days. I also participate in the royal crystal purchases and Mari’s shop much more than my fair share. I’m also doing daily’s on 7-9 characters almost ever day. Even with all those things, I cannot participate in the current content release. There isn’t enough funneling in the world with the current resources available and current honing rates to get there without spending thousands of dollars, real money trading, or just being absurdly lucky.
Honestly, the current honing rates wouldn’t be a problem if Argos wasn’t released for another 4 weeks, but here he is. I had several friends that are 1325-1340 quit the day of the patch when no honing changes were introduced. They all are playing this game like a full time job and it’s still not enough to be able to do the content available to whales. I don’t have an issue with people spending thousands for an advantage. Where I take issue is that even spending hundreds and playing 8-12 hours a day, I’m probably 3+ weeks away from being able to participate in the recent content release.
Content pacing with the current honing rates is predatory monetization. Everything was going great. Whales were spending thousands and thousands of dollars. Hardcore players were spending hundreds and hundreds of dollars. The f2p experience was decent for those players. Argos releasing without honing changes felt like, “Hey, I bet if we don’t release the honing update with Argos we can make all those people only spending hundreds spend thousands!” If someone who is playing the game 60+ hours a week, spending $100+ a week, and still isn’t able to participate, it’s a problem. It is not only blocking out the majority of the player base from participating, it’s making people feel like it’s not worth their time to play because if they don’t spend thousands they don’t get to raid.
I have no issue with players paying to support the developer and publisher. If they want to buy power beyond what is needed to participate and clear the content, that doesn’t effect me. What effects me, is not being able to do the content at all. It makes me re-consider investing my time in the game because I know I’m weeks “behind” now, but I know it only gets worse from here. If Valtan releases in a month, the gap between the content and me is only going to get wider, no matter how much I play.
If the game was released with the honing patch notes that were originally put up, the pacing would have been fine. Now, even if they are to release the honing changes, I believe we still won’t be on pace to be ready for Valtan in 4 weeks. The honing patch needs to be released ASAP, and Valtan needs to be delayed at least 2+ weeks to let people get caught up enough. The population is going to plummet if people think they can’t play the parts of the game they want to enjoy. There’s no incentive when its behind a paywall that isn’t even reasonable enough to climb.
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There is an empty desert of content between 1340 and ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------1370
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To many cryers here. Enjoy the game omg. 1383 atm wit out pay a €€. If u dont like asian mmos games leave to other game and stop try fuck this awesome game
I have a 1345, 1340, 960, 960, 563, 543, 540, 520, 420… I can confirm, these are not roster bound. I wish.
The director himself and multiple veteran players already said that “the game only really start at T3 raid”. They wanna get contents out real fast (legion raid), Valtan is scheduled to release next month (leaked) but the progress rate doesnt match up. With the current rate, the non-whale players will be doing argos when Valtan release. It is like playing WoW/FF14 but always one raid tier behind.
I highly doubt you’re not supplementing your honing without swiping here and there. I was one of the first tier 3 players in NA/EU, sold my mats early to whales, still don’t have enough gold to push to 1370 without insanely good RNG. I’ve been playing the game upwards of 16 hours a day+ the last few weeks, I am actively doing every weekly/daily available across two tier 3 (1350 and now a 1340 after accepting that pushing the main wasn’t going to be the play) with four tier 2 alts ranging from 840-1060, I sell everything unbound. I can tell you right now while doing unlimited chaos dungeon, it’s still no feasible for myself, let alone someone playing at a much healthier amount to achieve 1370 right now.
E: Grammar.
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I mean, it really is as simple as pointing to the KR/RU server. Don’t break what isn’t broken. The tried and true formula is already there.
well u can view my streams and check it. Not my problem if u dont know hwo to play the game for level up ur ilevel, all my guild have more ilevel than u f2p so…L2P and stop cry
ill drop my 2 cents , well im ok with the honing system its a little cruel but for me its ok , problem here is that t3 materials arent enough to waste for the honing system wich bothers me a lot to a point that im asking my self , should i keep playing this game cus i play like 12 hrs or more a day im almost 600 hrs and i fell like im getting no where.
Plus i know threw some other post we missing a lot of events or content that gives you materials my question is why ?
im ok if i dont get to play a content that is released or be close to a whale player , the thing that bothers me that the gap is way tooo long of a F2P to a whale.
i dont mind to spend a couple of 100 bucks but i dont like to pay it for progress that is not gonna get me near something , i would love to pay for skins and so far the current state of the game is pushing me to play another game that atleast i can get something or archieve something with all the hrs i waste in a game.
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Not enough source for T3 players to get mats granted the current honing rates. With the release of Argos without the “buffed” honing rates, it feels like the game is forcing you to spend gold/real money to progress faster given the current situation.
You should apply the original update with the buffed honing chances just like what RU and KR did. It’s all about content accessibility without forcing you to be pressured spending because the real deal is being able to access T3 contents as it is supposed to be.
This will also create an unhealthy gap between whales and F2P players which can cause unnecessary frustration while playing the game instead of enjoying the T3 contents available.
Almost 1500 comments basically agreeing with each other about honing rates. If this doesn’t gain any traction but a “we let the devs know and are trying to make a better Lost Ark experience” then i lost all hope for the future of this game.
Do you want criticism? Very well. You are trying to milk players and players are not happy.
We were promised a less P2W game instead we are getting the worst version of it.
Just give us the same rules of the Korean version.
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Observe a category 3 player talking to a category 2 player here. If it’s one piece of feedback you take to the meeting, it’s that knowledge gaps, to the extent that players need to look up info outside the game, determine vast amounts of progression because the game does not do a very good job teaching people what they need to do to progress in game.
It’s going to be impossible for AGS / SG to balance the game around the insane variance in information of game systems we have currently. Everyone needs to be on the same page or stuff needs to be axed so that the way people intuitively interact with the game is “mostly” the way you interact with the game. Otherwise you’re going to get knowledge gaps confused with P2W, and attacks on the game confused with attacks on the esoteric knowledge gained by the current priestly class on twitch, which is going to result in a TON of conflict in the player base.
Do what you want with honing but this state of affairs, more than anything, cannot stand.
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