Honing thoughts?

I doubt SmileGate allows AGS to make these changes without authorization. Our release saw more freebies for KR. My guess is we’re here to make them rich, while they make the game more fun for their original playerbase at the expense of NA/EU.

It definitely is when you look at the honing curve, not to mention the loss of gold.

Yeah the sudden release thing out of the blue is pretty bad. They should just release the same content KR and RU had at this stage. They had more materials to work with, that’s the real issue here. They moved the hard modes to 1370 for no reason.

Not a bad hypothesis.
You already have quite the control group to test on as well, and steam charts to measure drops offs.
Now is the time to collect data.

but today i feeling lucky when i successful upgrade 3 items (helm, chest and pants) with 30% rate x))…

Saint and Asmon are on stream now discussing why our version is the hardest and in a “not fun way”

hmm, glad we got some streamer muscle behind our game.

Didn’t work too well with New World, lets hope amazon actually tries this time.

I’m all for streamers that talk about current issues that will benefit us all if they are fixed, regardless of past reputation.

Would you happen to have a link to that?

Expect it to be on youtube within 48 hours.

thankyou

Here’s Asmon talking about possibly quitting if AGS doesn’t turn this toxic mess around.

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gg

hey is this live?

I feel like the current structure that honing rates and material generation rates come together to create, in concert with the ilvl requirement for Argos and the time frame it was released, a system that intentionally motivates players to spend real money to upgrade to a point where they are able to take part in content that is current.

This is not the incentive structure the game follows in Korea and Russia, as someone who has played there I have never needed to spend 1000’s of dollars so that I can access the new content release - playing the game has always been enough.

Changing T3 Abyssal Hard Mode to 1370 is another change specifically designed to create a population bisection of haves and have-nots, something clearly done to incite FOMO in the player base and motivate swiping.

So many of these things are so transparent, and such obvious cash grabs that it’s insulting. It feels like you’ve taken all the love and goodwill the player base has for this game, and all the excitement surrounding a western release and have decided to gouge those fans as aggressively as you can because you own the only reasonably avenue to play Lost Ark in the west.

The fact that later this week you’re going to put out a post saying you “misjudged” the impact these changes would have is just plain insulting, you have the entire history of the game in Korea and Russia to go off of, this exact thing happened the first time around in Korea with Argos so don’t tell me you “didn’t know”.

Amazon Game Studios has intentionally abused this community to further their own greed, the “suggested threads” underneath the OP in this thread say it all:

The only way anyone is going to trust you going forward is to own up to what you’ve done, publicly apologize to all the players, and outline how you’re going to ensure this never happens again.

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because he is asking who to contact in development for obvious glaring problems, and he is trying to create a channel to developers. But nothing is known for who to contact… is it amazon? is it our friendly staff that bans us when we get roudy? is it our friendly staff that start honing threads? is it someone else? who is the POC (person of contact) for game grievances.

For me I just dont understand the decision to make it harder than KR but have less sources to obtain materials. Very strange decision.

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“tied together” even though a good amount of materials are CHARACTER bound, not roster. lol

1 literaly change they could make, would be making the character bound crap roster bound, and people would be happy.

Hello @Shadow_Fox,

the honing chances right now I don’t mind at all. This amount is still easy compared to other games I am used to. Its all about the daily cap right now getting the materials TO enhance…

The one thing that makes me annoyed and frustrated is how you are severely limiting the daily amount of T3 materials right now just so people feel tempted to buy extra at Mari’s shop. Everything right now points to purposely being so restrictive so people are more inclined to swipe to do additional enhancing done.

The easy solution would be to create the same amount of T3 material drops in Chaos dungeons and Guardian Raids etc as you get in T1 and T2. So you can actually enhance a little bit more then 1-2 times a day at 10% succesrate…

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@Shadow_Fox First off your guys model for this game IS PAY TO WIN NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Second you should apologize to your community about how to took this game in a horrible direction and completely opposite of how the Game director wanted it for the West. Tips on how to make your game last and better for everyone playing not just your Rich Whales. Take out everything from your real money shop that pertains to honing and gearing your characters at a faster rate. Add the original content from KR and RU that we are missing and don’t say we are not. Increase the daily caps on what we are allowed to do for mats, increase how many materials we get on drops. Your t3 guardian raids give a whopping 3 leapstones…when we need 10-30 per attempt. Your REAL CASH SHOP should only have Skins, pets, mounts anything cosmetic that you want, that’s what your player base wants, there should not be anything in there that gives any other player advantage of gearing up! Everyone should be equal, and to be able to enjoy the game and make progress without having to Grind for 15 hours for 1 attempt. Yes players that enjoy that can still grind for that if they would like. Other wise your company is just after MONEY and GREED which is not right to gamers anywhere. It is honestly disgusting see you guys do this and to see all the rich whales on here think its okay for video games to do this in our current age. If you guys don’t make any changes listed by me or other concerned players your just admitting like many many other games, like Genshin Impact for example your just a pyramid Scheme for money. Thank for your time and that’s my thoughts about your game currently, take it how you want, also do not replay if you do not have anything nice to say, Yes this is to you whales out there.

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I loved this game, played a lot for the past 2 weeks, even got some skins.
I started to like because the overall feeling of the community about the game was that game is not p2w, that it would have enough content to keep up with everything.

But now that I reached 1350 I’m thinking of quitting the game. I just faced a pay wall, if I don’t pay I will need at least 1 month to get to 1370 from what I see. This made the game feel slow, and really demotivating for me, and it is frustrating/unfair cause we know KR/RU is not that way.

You should have delivered us more content to progress to 1370 instead of releasing content that incentive people to spend money, and now I might quit the game because it seems like it will be predatory all the way trough.

I don’t know why to do things like that. Like other user said, people will gladly pay more for skins than for progressing. I think Fortnite is the best example for that.

Anyway, I’m sad for that situation and seeing a game that I really liked going down this path.