Rarely are they going to be at the latest content, it is what it is. But they can at the least reach Legion Raids in a reasonable amount of time. Let’s say I start over all over again today, with nothing. Just theorycrafting out loud here, feel free to comment/correct as needed.
Since we have the op t1/t2 buff, I’m pretty sure all we have to do is Island Chains for t1, which should give plenty of mats. t2 I’m not sure how many materials you can get from there but I will most likely have to play for a bit in t2 to make sure they have enough material. Now that costs are severely reduced, just playing Abyssals with card hunters and doing Una’s should carry me over with raw Gold honing costs. Plus, Green/Blue books are actually expensive now so hitting the jackpot here is nice.
In lower t3 just Event Materials, Pirate Ship (do Adventure Island ofc for Pirate Coins/Gold), random Guild Shop is enough to get to 1340. But we also have the Express Event, so either way I could get a pile of mats dumped on me. In an emergency, I can play through South Vern as well for material.
Once 1370 gets reached, first thing to do is ride the Argos Bus like no other. This has to happen every time, every week to start generating Leapstones and Gear. Likely 3 Chosen/3 Argos is the easiest and 3x3 can be set up. I would also start Excavating ASAP to get enough material to craft my own Basics. Week 1 Concluded.
From this point on it’s just the grind, right? We just have to set up 1370 → 1385 – 1400 first, so I can do p3 Argos on my own. 1385 requires 393 GHL on average, 200 of which are generously covered by AGS with Hyper Express. So on Week 2 of 1370, Maharaka (45) + Event Guardians (30) + Dismantle Argos Blood (50) + Daily Chaos (~40) + Unas (84) + 1 Weekly Boss Rush (36) puts us at ~270 GHL give or take each week. I don’t count Yoho GHL since I need to sell those to maintain Gold Income. At the end of Week 2, I can reach 1385 with average luck.
1400 requires 3 weeks of this process, needing ~664 Leapstones using Honing Books.
1415 with two armor pieces at +17 also requires 3 weeks of this process. Note here that I can save a little on expenses by selling Red Stones for Blue Stones.
The 1430 push also requires the same resources. During this time, it is possible to set up a 4x3 + 1 or something similar with a 7/6 Stone and two +9 Books, so I’ll shoot for that.
Necklace here is a plain +5 since that will cut the cost dramatically.
I feel like this is reasonable progression for two months, no swipe.
I dont know if this will reach any new players but hard focus masterpiece collection.
Masterpiece gold rewards funded my entire push from like 1415-1445.
I started playing on launch, left for elden ring, then returned in the beginning of june.
In June I was around 1060 on my main, I used that express event on him. I made a destroyer and used feiton pass on him. I had already made a deathblade back during launch that was in T1.
In this time I managed to push to 1470 on main.
3 of those alts are 1370 and I made another 3 that are at 1370.
All of my alts focused masterpieces UNAs and started doing adventure tomes. I just have the 20k masterpiece reward left but prob will never get it bc of sea bounties and world tree leaves. But anyway, the gold from Masterpiece is really nice for a new player like me back then. I think all totaled it was around 20k or more, this was basically funding my honing and I was able to do all of argos in a full group no bus bc people were still being generous taking 1400s and 1405s etc in groups with 1430s and 1445s.
Right now im sitting on 90k gold. granted I got lucky with a 20k accessory drop this week. But my gold has been floating around 40-60k over the last 2-3 weeks and that is with me continually honing my main from 1445-1470.
I agree the experience right now is garbage if your new or behind, even in june inflation wasnt nearly as bad and the groups werent all busses or gatekeeping as hard. KR got the 1415 honing buff with Brel, but I have heard other regions received it with Vykas. Not really sure why SG made that mistake twice, seems to be for financial gains but who knows really. I would assume with an accelerated release cadence you would expect to receive different progression enhancements earlier than KR received them but whatever they have their reasons I guess.
EDIT: I should add that this roster I have made since June has required relentless daily playing with light spending, mostly on BCs or Skins though. I have been basically playing the game every single day as soon as I get off work (minus several missed days for family/holidays) until a couple hours before I go to bed. It has been incredibly unhealthy and it has reminded me of substance abuse / addiction.
I have 7 Weeks from completely fresh to 1415, but that is like FRESH-FRESH, as in absolutely nothing to start with.
1 Week of t1/t2 Content with Islands (assuming they aren’t no-lifing, I understand this can be done in like 2 days). With Hyper Express you can actually reach 1370 on the same week.
1 Week to get to 1385 given the Bound GHL Calculation. This assumes that Yoho GHL are being sold to fund the push.
3 Weeks to get to 1400, 3 more Weeks to get to 1415. Average honing luck.
that relic setup costs no more than 5-6k gold with high quality too
I almost did a 5x3 on my db with 10k but i bought a neckless that i realized after that i shouldn’t have gotten
perhaps if you are playing very optimally
keep in mind that they will be missing honing buffs from stronghold so on average a main would take a bit longer than your alt
for me t3 alts are 2 days of slacking at this point
a fresh account if they don’t care about any side content 6 weeks is probably reasonable alongside 5 alts at a decent level as well
oh no, you got to sell items to bots for thousands of RMT gold (leapstones were 900g a pop at launch, fish was 1g a stack) and got fever time every weekend for months of free items from AGS now you’re crying that new players don’t work as hard when they don’t get any of this stuff and saying how you worked real hard for your stuff.
new players are already greately accelerated through the game
So much so that they end up at end game raids without knowing how to move their characters
T1 and T2 are tutorials
and they are skipping all of them
if someone starts today they can be brelshaza ready on day 1 if they play optimally
compared to us who will be brelshaza ready with 1-2k hours more game time
if ever new players are given an account at end game ima straight uninstall
no way am i going to spend months in a game when i can just quit until akkan and get everything for free
seeing your posts in this thread shows clearly how much you dislike the game, thats fine, doesnt change that people should actually play the game to get stuff and not everything for free, I dont care about potions etc, give them all for free, but high ilvl is a different matter
I am realistic about game design and player experience.
Your posts in this thread say “When I played the game was shit so therefore it should be shit for you too”
As if you learned any game mechanics by spamming through lailai and I smell blood.
Just look at the 1370 free event pass. It’s all “veteran” players. You needed to have completed Punika to use it. See how trash yoho became and Oreha hards became because all these garbage “veteran” players can’t even stagger check and dodge a tornado.
1370 ilvl powerpass + event express to 1415 is the maximum they should give out, everything else would just be a slap in the face to people who are actually loyal and play daily. If they got free access to vykas within a week I would question myself why I even bother to play active and not just hop back in for a week whenever they release a powerpass
“I bought the game on launch and now there’s a sale, it is a slap in the face!”
But you said you like the game, if you had fun playing it until now, why is it a slap in the face? If you think the free char is better, why don’t you just delete all your characters and all your rapport/roster level/omnium star and giant heart skill pts and trade it in for a free 1415 and tell us how much better it is.
You accuse me of not liking the game, maybe it’s you who doesn’t.
It’s fun, because you were one of these people at the start of the game, saying we should be T3 instant, and that it was useless to learn any mechanic, because you’d learn them on T3 guardian , same with abyss dungeon that were too hard.
I’m happy to see that now you find that your mentality at the start of the game led to something so “trash”, with these “garbage” that can’t do any mechanics.
I restarted 5 weeks ago on euc, rerolled from euw where i had a full roster with Main 1475. So with knowing everything about the game. Mokoko and Express accelerated the way to 1370 by a lot but there the pain started as powerpasses were disabled the moment i started leveling.
So i had to level my first 2 alts by myself (only kt to vern) as i was super gold starved.
Main reached 1370 with 20k guardian stones and 7k destruction + 350 ghls… But 0 gold as Express gave only 2k gold (reduced from 12k).
Gold is still an issue 3 weeks after reaching t3. with now 3 alts at 1370 and Main 1400 but it finally starts to get better.
I did everything i could to get gold with my main in early t3. Adventure, Dungeon, argos buying bus as soon as possible , guardian questline, and even farming my daily lifeskills (i’m super good at hitting perfect in archaeology).
And all of this was still not enough to use all of my mats. I’m not even talking about pheons. Got 50 for free + some from event, so all my chars are 3x3 selffound on engravings.
It might be better now with powerpasses, but it was pure pain a few weeks ago.
If i was a completely new player i would have to spend money on gold to keep playing and progressing what is really not how the game should feel early on.
I joined the game late April. In time not to benefit from all the free fever times you launch guys got and in time to benefit from them deleting all the rapport and quest gold from bots.
So you got to tell me how good “new” players have it.
Sup.
“My mentality”
Looks like you made some shit up and are wrong. It was you who made the game this way. All these 1370 alts are you and all you veteran players trashing new players blaming them for it but refusing to take personal responsibility.
You destroyed the game economy by taking RMT gold while crying about RMT. You did it.
