Totally agree. I have 3x4 but no Keen Blunt or Grudge and I got MVP by a big margin in the last several weeks with SH in Argos P3. Haven’t tried Valtan yet. I don’t think Grudge should be taken by every dps class. People are being total sheep and putting Grudge on every character and it’s kind of sad. They are really gimping their own game play experience and I have seen several Grudge users who die easily and blame supports for wrong shield timing… like wot? lol this isn’t WoW where supports are there to only heal or shield you.
When I main Reaper I’ll put on Grudge because she’s extremely mobile. And if I were to main Gunslinger I might put Grudge on also. But for many melee classes I don’t think it’s worth it until you get the mechanics of these raid down pat. Then you can use Grudge all you want because you will rarely get hit. But right now everybody and their mama running Grudge and it’s a sad gaming experience for many people.
Demonic main here. Are you going DI or Perfect Supression? 3/3/3/3 would be good for Vykas, so def aim for that. Right now you only need 3/3/3 for current content.
I would guess 4x3 for DPS, some elite groups might want 5x3
3x3 for support (or just run around in underpants, you might still get invited just by them seeing your class icon)
Look. Vykas normal is tuned for 2 relic pieces and full relic accesories. It is harder than Valtan hard even if she is at 1430 gs. You need 3333 and the above
Vykas hard is 33331 and full relic, Clown normal will be 33332 and hard 33333.
Given you need 1445 to equip relic items, and that Vykas gatekeeps relic sets, I very much doubt Vykas normal, at 1430, is made to need relic gear… sounds like bs.
Since normal Valtan gives you relic mats Vykas is designed to be played by partial relic/argos/beast at 1445 or full beast set (which is an excelent set) at 1430. You are right I should have made the distinction. Full beast (or even 4 pieces) is stronger than 2 piece relic anyway and 6 piece just destroys any 2 piece relic set with its 40% damage increase.
2 piece beast only is not enough obv. Vykas normal is harder than Valtan hard (by a large margin also)
Korean streamers I watch (zeals, etc) all say 3333 just fine all the way up to breshalza (spelling?)
Granted they don’t represent entire kor or rus communities, and certainly other knowledgeable players other than them - but so far their advice has been spot on.
I’ll trust advice from reputable vets with years of exp over what seems over inflated new to content jitters demanding 33333 or better.
Clown cant be cleared without 33333 on ilevel. You just cant meet the dps check. But ye It is fine if you overlevel the raids.
In the meantime I have to mention that you 100% not 1445+ because the amount of gatekeeping that is already happening in pugs is insane. People are already asking for 3333 +20 weapon+lostwing + level 7 gems.
Do you really think you will be able to pug up until ABro with 4x3?
I’m actually curious about the relation of difficulty - I’ve heard this before, but I’ve already heard so much bullshit about the game, that I believe nothing until I see it myself.
I mean, everyone was talking about how we will need grudge because Valtan has a dps check… turned out that the dps check was an absolute joke that a full party clears in one third of the aloted time and even 3 - 4 players can clear it without even having optimal gear or class composition.
