The gold/crystal will jump in prices in respond. It is not going to go down because bots will still generating gold like they did in tier 2. Plus nothing really changed as they can still do 2x regular chaos dungeon a day x 100,000 times compared to player 2x a day.
They should GREATLY reduce the costs of these mats to make it viable for normal players to at least come close to buying out the shop with moderate grinding and time spent. I think the ramping up prices should be removed now that it’s character bound. Removing these mats from the market will increase the price and make it harder to gather mats so we need more ways to get them somehow.
Thank you for realizing the problem where most people aren’t really thinking about.
All you will see is that people will believe this change is good or it is a win, yet the other aspect however non-nonsensical it is, still being ignored by people.
You hit it right on the head that materials should have a constant buy tag that way it even the field between botter and real grinding players.
well i suppose since the minority of legit players could use it.They self farmed most mats … sold if there was not enought gathered for gold and honed if they had sth.
So it was nothing good for them anyway … they were stuck to always had not enought materials while the one half buyed with rmt and the other half just cheated infinity dungeon.
Maybe this will be economical bad … Still let this script runners profit is jsut no option …
I’d say it’s around 2 to 5 extra leapstones per day depending on the RNG.
I always sell my guardian leapstones and buy from mari’s alongside +1 una task.
Exchange rate is 10 crystals per leapstone, so the “profit” should stay the same because crystal prices and AH leapstones always inflate at the same rate.
Imo, way bigger issue are the stone prices which are the biggest indicator of RMTing. They’re at 8/14g now on EUC and it just keeps rising. Pushing an alt from 1340 to 1370 took me 35k gold a few days ago. Bound leapstones, books, research, so that’s just the stone, fusion mats and honing price. It’s just ridiculous. And imo, it’s the reason why right now this game is pretty much impossible for new players. How’s someone gonna generate enough mats to get to 1370 with current prices when everything except those mats and good relic accessories is worthless?
well its probably time to realease either extremly nice events or a honing buff for the first set … like express honing u can probably selfsustain it that way pretty easy
But before they can do that they need to clean up massivly we don have any new players anyway
And why the hell this game has still soo positive reviews at steam oO
I am not sure how it will turn out, but for sure for grinder they just lost at least 1 valtan hard gold per week.
I can’t speak about others, but it does make things a bit longer/harder and I can’t lie that it felt suck to end up losing something for those bots to win again. I will stick around to see how the Vykas patch is going to do first, then I will see.
to be honest, the games geometric grind scale is a bad system for NA players. Also, too much gameplay is tied to the grind/gates.
They are asking too much commitment for the game to be accessible in a fun way. Honing 1340+ is a rough experience for most players, and thats where a lot of the content is. You don’t really get a functional build until 1370, and they essentially require reinvestment at 1415.
things like the harmony scaled missions are a good step, but they are only for certain types of content.
Anyhow back to the point, reducing players methods of getting gold, when gold is a currency the progression is heavily designed around, will not have a great effect on the game progression imo.
to be honest, the games geometric grind scale is a bad system for NA players. Also, too much gameplay is tied to the grind/gates.
Idk, too much grinding is certainly a thing in this game, but a huge number of players is just doing it the wrong way. I’m gonna hit 1460 today and I’ve got only three alts. All 3 were 1340 up until last weekend when I pushed one to 1370.
Yesterday I was busy all day, logged in at 10pm and I was done by 12.30. Did everything on all 4 characters, including 6k life energy used. People are just inefficent.
You can include most of EU in that group , people on the Western version just have a whole other mentality and approach to the game compared to other regions.
Optimist … I like you 
May the RNGods smile upon you mate 
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No worries, I’m thinking about the worst case scenario and pitying. 
When I get it, I’m not doing any upgrades on my main for at least a month.
It’s really not going to change much. There are a lot of other ways the bots make gold.
Think about it, would someone fill a warehouse full of equipment and run the numbers of bots we see if it wasn’t extremely profitable? AGS is in a pinch because the bots are taking cuts of their profits. They can only affect the demand but giving us hold anddevaluing it. But it hurts them badly to do that as they lose money and people progress at a rate that isnt sustainable.
The only thing that is left now is to initiate Order 66 against bots and sink the remaining gold that they have or the players will suffer , because one decent gold farm was cut from them(players) but bots still have their stashes of gold left to sell …
This is far from the truth. Been playing WoW for years, and never EVER seen any bots. Why? Plenty of reasons, but mostly because everything valuable in the game was BOUND. You had to earn it on your own. No point running bots, if you can’t sell anything and get profit. I know it’s not rly possible here, as the game is designed to rely on market ( stones, jewelry ) but it’s a good start.
You cannot have anymore an auction house in game or trade your stuff in gold because the bots.
Erm, all I see is more profit for me. Gleaps for 1k each? Awesome, I’d rather sell them now than keep for myself. I’m not even going to adress that BS argument about orehas… If you’d rather buy them on the market instead of spending 5 minutes a day for fishing, well, your loss.
fee never helped any game to combat bots as long as the game is popular lol, they make 10x more profit, bdo still had sellers even tho the fee , same for wow
and if the game is too expensive then they would have to redo the entire progression else no normal player would play it, just a bunch of hardcore harold
thats more of a loss to the company than a bunch of bots
also i dont think there is a single good authentication method that could solve anything about this
since if it gets too personal that might go against eu or us policies(even tho there is no privacy anyway)
the game is designed for RMT, wow wasn’t designed for RMT.
basically the game is designed to create a large desire for players with money to want to buy f2p time. The optimal situation for gold selling,
That said the bots aren’t as common in wow, because its more profitable to be in games like these. But they were in games like wow before games like this made it so much more profitable to be here. In game like wow, they still have rmt though. look it up.
As long as you have anything people would rather pay people than do, you will have people trying to sell it to them. The only way to stop it, us if its not a possibility.
The problem is that it is an avenue to create inflation if abused.
Bots also do unas tasks, since it is a super simply way of creating money. You simply have thousands of bots do the same 3 unas every day, and at the end of the week they obtain the tokens, cash them in at vendor, and get the gold from chests. In a large scale this will be enough gold.
The same with masterpiece gold. It is at least very observable that plenty of bots turn in island tokens, which only makes sense in boosting account progression (not likely), or to achieve extra masterpieces to hit the first gold chest (most likely).
So it is not about if it is fine where it is at, the issue comes from lets say 100.000 bots doing this every week, then you have an insane amount of gold that does not come from trading, but from thin air.
Also you forgot to mention they also do lifeskilling, especially fishing as income.
I agree with the rest ofc.
… WoW gold farmers expansion when TBC released was insane
I knew people I mean a whole guild that was working in Gold selling but they were farming gold using fishing bots or just killing mobs and selling to the gold selling company in MOP , and they were making 800-1000 euros per week .
I mean there was so many sites that you can apply for a job of power lvling or boosting someone for REAL MONEY …don’t say WoW was not design for RMT …
The thing is the design of the game core is different and Blizzard GM’s can see more in their logs then Lost Ark GM’s (if they even exist) so they have a more easy way for identifying anomalies like bots , big transactions etc .
And the Auction House shows the names of people who posted the items on it and we dont have that in LA.