Are you using crit-related or chaos-related tripods?
Assuming you’re using Spec/Swift necklace (as you should), are you using LoS 18/30 or Lostwind or the Umar set?
Are you maintaining your Chaos Mode? (should be a non-issue if played right)
How good are you with your rotations? Do you still forget to use the -1.9s (Lv5 tripod) cooldown reduction on Swoop skills every now and then?
You mentioned having “mostly Lv4 tripods”, are they even the right ones? Also, are the alts you’re comparing your Reaper to also using “mostly Lv4s or 5s?” (it’s not unheard of for older alts to just be decked out on Lv5s due to the recent tripod change).
Raid Captain? If yes, are you on 140% mspd all the time (food is quite necessary to keep it capped w/o a support).
Getting 6 set this week so will have a better idea of how good it is.
The 4 set experience has been pretty in line with other entropy classes tho. I get about 4-6 mil Swoop crits with level 4 tripods and level 7 gems. As long as you are using shadowvortex on cooldown the swoop cooldowns are pretty reasonable.
I think I’ve been averaging a little under 1 mil dps on Kunga at 1460. It’ll be closer to 1.2mil give or take with 6 set I imagine which while not great is far from bad at 1460. Context most 1490s I see are running 2.4 mil average on kunga with some really good runs being in the 3 mil range.
Upgrade your Damage Gems to 8 also the tripods System to 5 or 4 if u can will bring a good dps. Also cooldown at Green and purple skills is one of the Most Important things at Hunger class. I Play with Adrenalin lvl1 the Rest Full grudge Ambush Master Hunger Raid Captain With 1000 Swiftness and 1100 Spec and for the Future with bracelet i will Take more swiftness and upgrade my dmg gems step by step to lvl 9 or 10. also the Right Card Set can increase your dmg buy back attack kills.
A lot of the responses make it sound like it’s subpar when it’s actually not though. It’s not head and shoulders above other classes (unlike say Artillerist) when it comes to output but definitely not “dogsh*t”.
Fair assumption, though not pointed out by OP so I can’t say 100% that they were back in December 7. Also, we’re not sure if they have enough skill points too (this is something that differs a lot from roster to roster).
Fair enough, although having a bracelet (with Swiftness) will let full Swiftness max out their Raid Captain all the time.
If they did, then they’d invest into Umar for sure. I have LoS18 myself but I also have maxed Umar and it does higher DPS (from my arbitrary self-testing). I don’t have a Striker, I just got 15x of each of the three cards naturally by playing.
OP didn’t specify if they did use RC, or even Mass Increase for their tests, but since they tried out full Swift, it’s a fair assumption too.
Not trying to be a dick or " well actually, you see * raises glasses slowly * " you here but its true. Three umar + we’ll meet again is truthfully only viable on striker or wardancer. Its a dps gain over LoS 30 if you are a back attack class that also uses elements. Its marginal, but 3% at ultra end game is a substantial increase. Full disclaimer, i don’t remeber if its 3% or more. Not at my pc and dont care enough to check.
3 umar would probably be better than windcliff and LoS 12 if you have enough crit and are a back attack class. Then you could use a hp set or something i guess but LoS 18+ should outperform 3 umar + hp set and probably be marginally lower than 3 muar + We’ll meet again. Hit master classes obviously wont benefit. If you dont have an element, you also dont benefit.
In my opinion Reaper in generell is underperforming in terms of raw dmg. EG. My 1508 Reaper with 5x3 and +21 Weapon can barely out dps my 1470 shock Scrapper with 4x3 (without Grudge) and +20 Weapon. And my Surge Blade (I know Surge Blade is quite overtuned) on 1480 +21 weapon with 4x3+1 can push push out like double the dps of my Moon Reaper.
Other said in easy Raids eg. Argos, Valtan HM or Vykas HM I get out dps’d by many players that are around 30-40 Ilvl below me. And I personally dont think iam a bad player overall.
I also dont think that the bonus mobility can make up for that much of a dmg loss.
I will just wait for the next Balance-Patch and hope it will become more close to feel like an actually dmg Assassin Class.
Atm the Reaper just feels like you are jumping around the whole Raid tickeling the Boss and giving him perma - 12% armor for your party and waiting for you time to counter the Boss.
Dunno my 1530 moon reaper dishes 7,5 mill in 2 min
My 1530 blade with 2 x higher wep does 8,3~
Seems pretty equal. Never played hunger but trixion dps is irrelevant anyways. Hunger can have like 100% uptime IF ur good. I rock multiple dps mvps thru brel all gates so I don’t think the class underperformes greatly. It’s fine and with the buff we get the cycle will go a bit more smooth.
Overall I love the class it’s like deathblow striker ur dependent that everything is in order. Lvl 5 tripods good gems cards etc.
I love lunar it feels great. It’s like a deathblow striker just that u arent immobile like a truck. But u still hit as hard. I play with swift on neck and double crit on bracelet so i barely see white swoop skills.
The lvl 5 tripods were expensive af tbh I payed like 200k but got everything on lvl 5 now. The whole dps lies in ur red skills tho every tripod upgrade feels Hugh. Overall my favorite class. I would play hunger - cause tbf an assassin should feel like hunger fast and deadly. but I just love Hugh numbers.,
Yea, I might get a setup for both specs. It’s my dps main, so it would be worth having the ability to switch and enjoy something different from time to time. Hunger dps uptime is pretty easy if you understand when you can squeeze and when you can’t. The mobility makes it easy to evade if you put yourself in a bad spot. It’s pretty nice, but I do like seeing big numbers from time to time. I don’t know anything about lunar. I never looked at it. I saw how fluid hunger was and insta made it.