no skins are getting censored but thats not how it works. your not getting 3 years of skins instantly they release them for events and throw you a bone once and a while, they do it this way because if they flooded the market with skins f2p players wouldn’t have enough gold to get the skins they want and it would pseudo cause people to swipe which is not what they want.
again though only the promotional art was censored because they cant show bra and panties skins on a billboard your drinking the koolaid if you think any other skin is going to be censored when gold river himself said no they aren’t.
to be fair they aren’t after the whales anymore, whales are gonna whales.
They are after the dolphins, or the gold fish. The ones who never opened the wallet yet. FOMO about being left behind the guild they are with or whatever getting them to shell out a couple hundred to bypass the current 1340 paywall that most (someone will jump all over the I’m 2795 and never paid!) players will get stuck at without investing a great deal of grinding over the next month or smack the game with the wallet.
If AGS/SG wanted the content drought to be over it would be over. There is no development required, the content exists it’s just not in our version of the game.
The events are just a little welfare handout you get every thrursday for being a good boy. After cashing in all my ships, bloodstones, event tokens and chaos/guardian I went from 1351 to 1357. I’m sure this Thursday i’ll even break 1360. Yay.
None of this is unintentional.
They aren’t sitting watching the forums for player feedback. They are sitting watching the data points for player spending. So long as the profit margins are still up they will continue to drag this out. Once they reach a point where the people spending are pretty much run dry you will see an apology thread, a roadmap and some 1340-1369 content pushed out.
I can’t believe I’m actually reading something constructive and something that’s not rude or selfish.
Other than that I agree. I stopped honing at 1340 because it just keeps failing and I can’t be bothered losing all my materials every time I do it. Plus in almost 500 hours I only have around 12k gold so can’t exactly go wild with that.
Sorry for my poor english, isnt my primary but ill try my best to share my experience.
Im a full F2P, not platinum, or founders pack, nothing!
My main its a 1400 paladin that i hate playing (its feels so unrewarding to play support i always play healers and supports but in this game its like mehhhhhhhhhh, i have literally all the mats to rush my LM to t3)
1400 as a f2p its possible? yes it is, but you will have to spend SO MUCH TIME, i have 5 alts at t3 (yes 5 and my main) it takes me 3 hours and a half to complete 12 chaos dungeons + 10 guardians raids 2 night fox yoho + 2 igrexion + 6 scorpions(for some reason night fox yoho its faster than the scorpion).
Maybe you are thinking why would you do that, its not a race, but this kind of games are an adiction for me if i dont tryhard it i rather not play it (i guess many others have this mentality i hope im not the only one)
If i regret expending like 42x hours in the game i would say yes but i wanted to get into the endgame quick so i can play less later (silly me).
But dont get me wrong, im an adult, i have a full time job but i have spent all my free time playing lost ark in the last mounth and a half.
So in conclusion, its possible yes, but i feel like i hate the game more and more everything. Its a real second job if you want to raid argos p3.
Every other region only released content up to Shushire, we got all the way to T3 + other shit.
But then we got the crybabies in NA that demand/expect more even though we were pretty spoiled.
Yet it is never enough because the honing rates got hard, that they hit a plateau so they come to Forums and make a post to cry about their “suffering” in game. Because these people actually SUFFER from honing in a videogame that they demand free hand outs. If you’re suffering because of a videogame, the problem isn’t the game, the problem is you. Get over yourself.
I’m saying this from experience reading about all the crybabies having to endure the the deadzone and threatening to quit in their post. It’s quite funny lol
you trully believe theres no pay wall 1370+? it will hit you way harder then 1340 if thus level of play is bothering you i would just quit because you won’t handle the honning past that.
Every other region hated that T1/T2 content and the game wasn’t doing so hot until abyss raids were added.
Several different Korean streamers and players have commented that the version they gave us is lacking too much content and they don’t understand why it was released like this. The Korean vets have said they are repeating the same mistakes they made in other regions.
What would you tell people that have played the game for several years in other regions that feel our current version is leaving too much stuff out?
Ok you just agreed that every other region only had T1/T2 content and they hated it. We have all the way up to T3 + more content. Do you not see the point here? That we got more than we’re supposed to? That we were already spoiled??
KR vets? Sure I can talk about KR/RU vets too. Maybe your KR vet is one of them crybabies, because the KR/RU vets I know are completely happy with the NA release up to T3.
The other version have been out for years, allowing them time to release the content and the casual players to catch up. It needs to be like this so we go through the content as planned. What are you expecting? All the Legion Raids and 100% of everything from the KR version already? Sounds a bit entitled.
I was expecting them not to move 1355 guardian raids and hard modes to 1370 to make the deadzone even more bare. Killing igrexion for 3 weeks straight hasn’t been that fun.
The deadzone was a well known issue in other regions and our release made it even worse by moving content from 1355 to 1370 and providing less sources of mats. I’m not really sure how you defend that move. And then they release argos on one days notice when 99% of players couldn’t even access it. Both moves make sense if the company wanted to milk the whales fomo.
Slow rolling valtan for another 3 months while the other players catch up is not going to be good for the game.
Ok I guess I shouldn’t have used “KR vet”. I’ve seen several different hardcore Korean lost ark streamers that have pointed out the issues I did above and how bad they are for our version of the game.
IMO release the honing buffs that KR got asap and then valtan one or two weeks later is the way to go. Let’s people catch up and provides new content for the hardcore people already at endgame. Do you see any negatives?
Im in the same boat. I joined a guild to experience endgame raids with some new folks Ive met along the way. A few ppl decided to pug instead of seeing if anyone wanted to run argos. meh.
I don’t like scrapper as a main, and my main isnt here yet. I don’t want to invest much more into scrapper, but Im at argos so I might as well. I don’t know. Kind of becoming frustrated with the direction and burning out a bit. Not sure what I want to do.
If you didn’t know, after Igrixion, you’re just going to be kill Night Fox Yoho for a few weeks also after you hit 1370. So what’s the difference? The game slowed down and it got hawrd because they intentionally wanted it to slow down before Argos? But because they released Argos a little early, you have an excuse to ASSUME that 99% of the player base couldn’t run Argos? They could’ve released Argos at launch as well and it would’ve been the exact same thing. You’re still going to be locked out by ilvl that YOU’RE NOT AT YET. You’re still under the impression like somebody has a fucking gun to your head forcing you to pay or something. When that’s not even the case, you literally don’t have to pay anything, and you literally don’t have to play this game at all.
I guess you lack the brain power to realize that if they released everything quickly the way your ass wants it, no casual players will ever hit the required ilvl to run any content and then you’re going to cry EVEN MORE. They need to release content slowly for normal SANE people who play the game casually to progress. Being entitled and wanting something NOW just because you want it without even realizing the consequences is just sad.
Shows exactly the type of person you are who is incapable to form their own opinion because you’re too caught up on what your streamer thinks lol. I don’t know how to get this through your thick skull, but the honing rates increase b4 Valtan really isn’t going to do much. Because later down the road once you get your Artifact and Relic gear, the chances of honing takes a dive again and you’re literally at the 1-5% honing chance. This is the damn core game design that’s not going to change. If people like you are already complaining and can’t handle 10-30% at the 1340-1370 deadzone, you’re not going to handle it later. So might as well quit now before we have more forum posts later on demanding to be babied.
my point was not “difficulty” of current of future paywalls, but how they are placed BEFORE the content instead of in the middles of it. If the paywall was 1385 for example, people would have access to Argos P1 and Hardmodes at least and slowly build up their endgame sets. Those who would choose to push into P2/P3 would get the sets faster, but that would not hurt the playerbase as much.
but i am sure that SG and AGS are not stupid to know what is better for players and whats better for their wallets. Looking at what they managed to do with NW, i am not so sure their data analysts are top tier pros
There will always be people that complain, there will always be people who are unreasonable. The reality, often, is that the court of public opinion rules. Right now that court has seemingly overwhelmingly ruled that they want honing changes. If that’s correct for the progression/roadmap of the release actually ceases to be relevant, if the public push becomes strong enough.
Currently I think that there is a very large wave of content opportunism going on, that is seriously impacting the way things are seen. I can’t really blame content creators for making content that makes them money (Aka "I spent $4000 on honing and got nothing!), because that’s their job. However it is inflaming the issue.
I think a good way to move forward is to really think about what YOU as a player like, what’s fun for you? I doubt it’ll be the same as the next player you see, and that’s okay. We’re here to have fun, and it SHOULD be AG/SG’s job to facilitate that range of enjoyment and play style.
I was a pusher for many years. I did it back in the late 90’s. in my teens. Boy what a time that was. Then I did it for a while in my mid 20s for a few years. Wasn’t as fun but helped pay the bills. Then once more in My late20s and early 30s it was really fun that time till it got way out of control. I stopped eating, sleeping, drinking. Sometimes I would see shadow people and hear people in my sealing. Went broke on that push. Almost lost everything, what I’m saying is…I don’t remember what I was talking about anymore. DONT BE A PUSHER KIDS
You should take a break from the forums if you can’t engage in a conversation without personal attacks every other sentence.
And you keep missing half of my argument. I think they should put in the same honing rates for 1340-1370 that KR currently has and then release valtan.
You’re saying nobody will reach the ilvl and everybody will complain if they release everything too fast. If they put in the honing buff a couple weeks before releasing valtan only (not the entire game like you’re suggesting) it would allow casual players to progress more quickly. You’re saying you’re ok with holding off valtan for another 3 months?!? I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think the hardcore player base will stick around with no new content for another 3 months.
The honing buffs do quite a lot actually. Go read them. Some of the buffs are like 50/60% less materials needed. And I don’t care about low hone rates after I have actually unlocked end game content. I will enjoy progressing through my 1-5% honing chances when I can atleast access some of the end game raids.
Right now from 1340-1370, there is a lack of content because the devs moved 1355 content to 1370.
Atleast 1370 has argos and hard mode abyss, and don’t the hone rates actually get better for a few ilvls after you hit 1370 and you start upgrading argos gear?
so I’ve been doing that. bought all the books… and am stuck at 1339 because the last item doesn’t want to upgrade…
its not even the way from 1340 to 1370… if ur stuck on the 1325 chaos dungeon ur just fucked…
no other sources for materials… and u can’t do the 1340 abyss to get more gold. nada… ur done for the week.
That was never going to happen, end of the day it’s a Korean game, they have strict laws in that country over the time you are allowed to play and developers build their content/games around those rules, hence the you can get most of your stuff in LA done in 2h per day phylosphy. I think if you thought this would not carry through to the NA/EU launch you were wrong. They were never going to fundamentaly change the way the game works from the base version. Tweak yeh, but no massive changes.
DONT BE A PUSHER KIDS