Technically he is right with the definition of F2P. Its the same argument and back and forth people calling p2w p2skip or p2progress. Its litterally the same thing.
IF YOU BUY ANYTHING WITH REAL MONEY, you arent f2p anymore. Cause you bought by “DEFINITION” an ingame item which only can be pruchased by spending money. So for example if you want a character slot, you arent f2p anymore “technically”.
Now if you would go to the auction house and buy blue crystals for gold you earned in game and you could buy a character slot with said blue crystals, you are f2p since you spend your gold earned by playing the game.
The same goes for games which need to be bought right out the gate vs the litteral term “f2p-games”.
That is not f2p if you buy anything other than skins. But skins only, I can call that f2p.
Why?
Simple reason. Everyone and their mother knows League of Legends is f2p and yet you can still pay for skins. In fact, people massively spend on skins. But it’s f2p and you can’t p2w.
[quote]IF YOU BUY ANYTHING WITH REAL MONEY, you arent f2p anymore. Cause you bought by “DEFINITION” an ingame item which only can be pruchased by spending money. So for example if you want a character slot, you arent f2p anymore “technically”.
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I agree with the character slot expansion NOT being f2p.
However, you can still buy skins and call yourself f2p IMO.
I do understand where you are coming from, so i agree to an extend. But i think this person (boinkboink) was refering to the litteral technical term. But as newnewb pointed out, f2p also is very “subjective”.
And btw. Skins in LoL are p2w^^ Or atleast i know some that are, using one myself
Not everyone plays on super graphics computers to show all the skins value, you know. Besides, predicting what enemy champ is gonna do comes from experience, not from observing their skin movements.
If you’regonna rely on champion tell-tale signs, you rely on your reflexes only, which is inadequate
In the Context of Lost Ark i compare F2P with P2W, and not B2P.
F2P by that context to me means that the player did not purchase any item with IRL money that gave them an advantage. If they purchased skins, etc then it’s still F2P. (and this is how i see it in general).
And that’s why i take issue with OP’s original post, because we have been given free stuff over the past month of good value overall. I’m not sure what they mean by the Cashop is not good for a F2P player.
Ofc I did, why? I never considered that or any other skin in the game to be p2w xD
If it truly is, and word gets around, Riot bans it from professional play. And again, people in lower elo are not that good to extract maximum value out of slight advantages, if any exist
Eh, check some videos on Youtube. The tip of his blade in this skin is badly shown or wrongly coded where it actually finds his destination. So to speak, the hitbox of the skin is longer than it actually is.
You can abuse the small range for early harras and disengage since people only look out for the hitbox. Easy play on top lane
So if I buy skins like 10 skin packs. Use 1 myself and sell 9 I am in your eyes still f2p? I mean I only buyed skins so per your definition it’s still f2p.
If you put 1$ in the game and buy anything , Wayne skins or anything else, you can only get by self buying you aren’t f2p anymore. So stop Talking crap about „skin buying is still f2p“.
No it’s not since you can always claim „I just bought skins“ and people like you will say „ah it’s f2p then".
And also skins give you a stat boost, a little yes but a statboost. Imagine we would get the legendary skins… if you buy those you are still f2p right?
i mean people claim they played the market, but instead they RMT and got millions, that’s a little irrelevant.
We are talking about what we consider as F2P in the game.
now if someone does something else and they lie about it, its a diff issue.
The Advantage in % skins give you is extremely small, and you have plenty for free given to you. And also, we dont have legendary skins yet, so that’s not an argument yet.
You’re just being contrarian. You know where the difference lies. If it gives you anything helpful to progression which you can’t get for free (in that amount and occasion), it’s not f2p.
