I never said it didn’t serve a double purpose.
I said “with it’s intent is to deter AH flipping.” which it does in Korea. Just not here.
I also said they need to adapt the system for NA/EU. It’s not like I can’t see bait for money.
I mean there’s not even a trade channel in the game. How is that even possible?
Dealing with Gems is 1000% more troublesome just because of no trade chat.
Why do I even have to play an alt in order to play my main. It’s so stupid that I’m forced into playing classes I don’t want to play or making duplicate alts of the same class just to be able to play the one character I do want to play. It’s stupid game design.
The game is great, the raids and horizontal content is fun, the honing gate for content is dumb and being forced to play multiple alts to play the game is dumb.
It’s not a game for someone with a family and a job.
simply put thats how the game is designed.
no one forces you to do anything, you are free too progress slowly with a single character. but the game was built for people who want several alts. like my self
not every game is made for every player. they are built around a core demographic and sometimes a player that isnt apart of that demographic finds and tries out that game. then wonders why the game isnt built for there own personal likes and wants.
at the end of the day if you dont like how a game is played its perfectly fine to find another game. these are video games, something we do for fun.
It’s a gold sink and a way for AGS/SG to get some additional in game store traffic, in my opinion. They could implement a scaling gold tax to replace the pheon cost. But seeing a 50+ gold tax is a lot “scarier” then seeing 1 blue coin.
Edit: As pointed out, it’s less a gold sink and more a dollar sink. Since trading Gold to BC is just exchanging to someone with RC. I guess in the end it sucks that this is just another driver for players to facilitate the buying of gold using IRL currency.
Yea if no one has reasons to buy blue crystals anymore, who are whales going to buy gold from?
The game prints gold, but crystals only come into existence when money is spent. It’s easy not to think about it when you can trade gold for crystals, but a crystal sink is a dollar sink.
its actually a core part of the gold exchange. without pheons people have no real reason too buy blue crystals.
in Kr, blue crystals are used for mari’s shop, pheons and pet “stat” rerolling. in the western release, we use it for mari’s shop, crystal aura and pheons. all in all there really isnt alot of options for blue crystals so pheons are there as a consistent thing people need. the fact its a tax and such is great and all, but its done for the gold exchange.
Pheon system is trash and just hurts regular players while the gaslighting indicates it is to help them. The fact you get charged pheons when sending your other characters stuff in the mail shows the system is trash and isn’t about protecting the poor average folk playing the game from the big bad whales. Or how about being charged pheons to get ability stones that you can’t even trade more than once and are a massive rng issue so you will most likely need more than one to get a good facet on them. I mean this crap that it is there to help players is some next level politician level gaslighting. Scary some buy into it.
That anyone actually defends this system is mind boggling to me and makes me think they are suffering from serious Stockholm Syndrome issues.
So many people I don’t think have any idea what is going to happen to the player base when more get to t3 and see all the predatory BS that exists in this tier with pheons, the big silver and gold sink on honing and tripod level transferring, the lousy honing rates which create an excess mats sink It’s going to be the main thing that gets most non diehards to quit the game. I guess the diehards will be pleased by that though since I get the feeling they don’t like all the “filthy casuals” playing this game.
Wish they werent attached to blue crystal price and had their own fixed cost in gold. Basically you can only gear if whales are flooding the market with Crystals. For example in SA we are running around 700-800ish gold per bundle. so if you wanna buy accs its gonna cost upfront 1200g + the acc price per.
If you wanna test something new, its not worth to spend 1200gs like that per.
I think pheons could be fixed in the NA/EU version by adding a few as a reward for abyssal dungeon completion at the appropriate skill level, similar to gold rewards.
Pheons are the wrong way to stop people from ruining the games economy
It simply taxes players who buy from the AH or market. People here dont understand what mentality SMG has. These guys are not making games so you can have fun. There is no passion or vision behind Lost Ark. Its a Gacha. Its here for your money.
The most popular sentence in Lost Ark dev meeting must be “We should add “X” feature to increase revenues”.
Thats it. They will tax you at each corner. They bound items so u cant share them between your own characters dammt!
When are you guys gonna wake up and realize that there is no “game”?
the 3 trade limit on accessories and skins already stop flipping in a lot of ways.
I see pheons as necessary evil. They’re good for the game but feels bad to the player
Remember pheons isn’t an outdated system that existed from the start. They had to implement pheons to solve an issue. It’s not perfect, but it’s 10x better than not being there
-Pheons are baked into the accessory price, so if they removed the pheons, the same accessories would just go for more gold. You wouldn’t be richer / save gold if they removed them
-They give out free pheons, but they can’t give out free gold (inflation, bots, etc). Non-whales would be hurt by it. In a way, we’re getting free gold that doesn’t impact the economy
-Helps prevent item flipping which would drive up price
If you are careful about how you spend pheons, you can get 3/3/3 gear on your character for like less than 1k. That’s crazy.
I think the system is fine if you are doing content and using the AH to fill in gaps here and there and we get a set amount of free ones each month. I’m talking for our main class here.
One issue is T1 and T2 items shouldn’t have any sort of cost. I get they cost 1 each time you use it but the only reason I’m buying accessories or stones is so I can get to T3 faster and Korea has it so you just start at T3 now, so why do I need to waste such a precious item on lower tier stuff?
Another issue is alts. The expectation is you will have T3 alts and unless your alts are all the same class, how are they getting good accessories? This is a big elephant in the room. I haven’t gotten my T3 alts T3 accessories yet through the AH, but for my main it cost me 15 pheons for each item…let’s not talk about stones and you need to try A LOT of times due to absolutely trash RNG on getting stones that aren’t junk.
Im fine with them honestly. They work to help curb bots on the market.
I’m probably not a good person to ask but I haven’t have any problem with them yet. The game has given me over 400 and I’ve only used 3. I think in higher tiers & with relics the peon cost is higher so we may see more complaints/problems then.
phons are a SACAM, is the most disgusting thing on this game by far. worst thing is they wont ever take it away, i bet this is probably the most profitable item they sell. is why they dont care about bots or anything like this. more items, mote gold in the market = more phones sales
if you so much to even trade/mail items to an alt you get charged.
this is a dirty tactic typical of greedy companies like this who dont care about anything other than selling something with no regard of how or what they sell.
i really liked this game until i had to experience first hand the reality of this SCAM.
they should be ashamed of even doing this but that imply they have some shame to begin with.
you are dumb
pheons exist so that you don’t waste your gold buying accessories you don’t need.
It makes you THINK before buying.
If pheons didn’t exist you would waste more gold buying accessories you don’t need than buying pheons and the accessory combined like now.
right or wrong?
I don’t care about pheons at all the price of pheons compared to the prices of the accessorioes worth buying are irrelevant.