People willing to pay a mandatory subscription are also much more likely to spend money!
So, that kind of server would be even more likely to have RMT!
With internet Anonymity in the NA/EU … nothing will ever be solved. And there will never be an internet ID number for all users in the world…
This is not an easy problem to solve in a global game…
Wow/FFXIV have bots. You have to buy the game, the expansions and then pay monthly subscription. Both game have cash shops. Hell, WoW even sells ingame currency and creates direct competition to RMT.
So, subscription will solve what exactly? Cuz definitely not bots.
If I had the choice between giving up internet anonymity, and fewer bots in Lost Ark, I’d rather not deal with games like this anymore.
Predatory Casino Games like this might be forbidden in a few years anyway.
its not internet anonymity anymore when players are forced to use their credit card to pay for the subscription
Never heard of a prepay debit card? Anyone can get one, requires zero credit rating or check, and all 3 major card providers have option for completely anonymous version of prepay cards.
Amex, MC, Visa - all have prepaid anonymous cards. Can’t be used for products that deliver but any service like a sub, easy.
I doubt it. Very few countries actually completely outlaw gambling as opposed to just regulating it.
they can easily reject prepaid cc as payment method.
No they can’t. Not without rejecting that entire type of payment provider.
A merchant can choose to accept MC over Visa, or accept neither. Or all three Amex, MC, Visa, sure. But they can not reject any specific type of card that provider provides without violating their merchant agreement to process those transactions.
Same for bank issuer (e.g. merchant also can’t say will take Bank of America Visa but not Wells Fargo Visa.
So only way a prepaid anon card would not be accepted is if the merchant declined all cards of that issuing type. E.g. decline all Visa
vendors can totally tell the difference between regular cc and prepaid cards, especially anonymous prepaid cc.
check this out.
google-now-rejecting-prepaid-cards-for-some-of-its-services
Clearly you don’t know how Visa, MC or Amex works.
Or bothered to do simple google search on merchant transaction agreements for any of big 3 card issuers
Or ever ran even the smallest of businesses that accepted credit card payments. A merchant Is free to decline all or none, they can’t pick and choose, what they are free to do is constrain their purchase requirements - e.g. require not just a card number and name / address but forbid PO Boxes. Or refuse to ship to a PO Box, etc
Which is why in my original reply I said prepaid anon can’t be used for most product delivery purchases, but are just fine for service payments.
Since you clearly have no clue how actual commerce works, no further replies. Stew in your own fantasy world if you like.
I am actually dumbfounded that people think a subscription server would solve the bot issue.
I worked as a software engineer. I certainly know how payment system works. dont be a dumbass and admit that youre wrong.
Merchant can definitely tell what type of credit card are being used.
You can provide detailed definition by adding data property to the payment method data. supportedNetworks indicates which credit card brand you support and supportedTypes indicates which type of cards ( credit , debit and prepaid ) are supported.
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After playing osrs and RuneScape I have just learned to just cope with bots being an issue for MMO in general. At least they are grinding the tedious stuff instead of the high end gear.
A merchant -can- implement lots of things. Such as the common $X amount required to use card at their establishment. E.g. must buy $5 or whatever to use card
Doesn’t make it compliant with their transaction agreement. Report them and they will get in trouble for violating terms.
Same for requiring ID. Bet you didn’t know every store demanding to see ID in order to pay with Visa or MC is violating their terms of service for cc transactions did you?
An engineer can code in lots of things, doesn’t mean merchant is obeying their cc transaction tos with the card issuer. A merchant can code in decline any payer with name Joe. That is not the same thing, nor compliant with tos, as the card issuer who doesn’t care.
merchants (e.g Amazon) can tell what kind of payment it is regular cc vs prepaid (You said they can’t tell). They can certainly block payment from prepaid, which i have shown with proof.
its absolutely not against to law to block prepaid, as Google is doing for some of their service. (Maybe they have been seeing too many problematic payments from prepaid and decided to block them entirely)
well i suppose this will not solve anything right now … we need a really good cheat detection maybe spyware … and probably the game could get easier …
The problem is the sums which are traded here are jsut rediculous … if u speek about 100s of dollars sure its worth producing a bot army and even pay a subscription or trustet accoutns or whatever …
This game is just a big moneysink … but its also amazons money but it looks like they just live with it because there is just no solution 
you have lost the argument. its okay to admit you’re wrong its okay. its totally fine.
A company worth billions of dollars can’t hire a few GMs to ban these fuckers? That is too much to ask?
well some gms will not solve the problem … maybe they could go after the real played accounts which are connected to bots or use their income … but the mass will just continue to auto produce …