I'm sick of people saying you can keep up with the whales f2p

Say we funneled to 4 players and then patch dropped a few could still be left out etc

They get access to most of the gold circulating in the market, which means they can gear all their characters much more efficiently and play the game the way it was “intended”. Meanwhile everyone else struggle busses their main character for months at a time if this plays out.

This is that trickle down economics BS rhetoric some people have been trying to spout lately. Most of the people playing this game are working adults. If you can afford to door dash a lunch or a dinner every once in a while, or go to a Sizzler or Ruby Tuesday, you can afford to buy a skin when it gets released. Stop, we’re not children asking mommy and daddy for their credit cards.

Who will quit, the RMTers? They certainty won’t, they get to experience the best aspects of the game 100% of the time and bypass all of it’s pain points. If you’ve RMTed it’s reasonable to assume you will never have to spend money on this game again as the value of being in cutting edge content so early gives you access to blue crystals, gold thats all self generated by you playing once a week if you really felt like it.

The game becomes significantly more enjoyable the stronger your character becomes. Maybe they quit from boredom, maybe they don’t but thats not the point. The point is a F2P player will never be competitive in this game. Not gear wise and not market wise, unless you dedicate copious amounts of hours to this game. The value of your time is significantly diminished. This wasn’t what was advertised, this is incredibly predatory and the playerbase will evaporate the longer this unfolds if nothing is done to remove the excess gold from the market, and allow the vast majority of players to enter the competitive market.

This isn’t even updated for the new shop quantities for t2/t3 , and no, that is not why. Mari’s shop is partially why, but specifically that tool? no.

Its a little saddening to hear that this is not always the case in NA/EU

In KLOA our guilds/groups always did this, even the Korean community would help newbies and or people who weren’t geared enough.

Our guild has done this in almost every MMO over the past 10 or so years as a crew so maybe this is why we don’t feel the effects the same way as other players who might not have groups like us.

The feedback to you all put on the forum is very helpful btw. Especially if its constructive.

Lost Ark Director Keum Kang Seong Hyung / Gold River reads through Reddit, Steam and these forums as well.

He said that he appreciates feedback, as long as its constructive and not nasty. He said his development team are humans too and have feelings like all of us.

His recommendation is that we voiced our opinions with kindness, and his team will be more motivated.

Maybe as a community we can work towards more positively conveyed feedback? :slight_smile:

Just lol at people who think whales aren’t common. I see so many 1400+ in Punika on Mari server.

I wish that was the case and more people worked together but it’s very rare unless it’s a world-first raid or something along those lines. Most statics will have a few close friends and those who they are willing to just replace and keep their gold.

As terrible as it sounds, if you don’t know them well are you willing to give them a ton of materials they can just lie and say failed on enhance?

Most would end up quitting that can’t keep pace and it creates a chain reaction. If one friend can’t play with another than all of them typically leave. A few people I know already left and I’ve seen this same thing happen in other MMO’s monetized in similar ways.

1360=/=1370.

It’s sad that even you bought founders packs that cost (silver, gold and platinum) 3 x AAA game you are still behind like F2P. We are not Korea… i think that many western players would love to buy some skins etc. Just look at sales before launch - The most popular was platinum pack. It’s like half of the playerbase paid a lot for that game (a lot for P2P games). We have jobs and lifes…

Didn’t say it was…I possibly have the mats to get to 1370…I’m just not sure if I want to spam them before reset. Have a feeling change is coming for honing.

you are sick lol

I bought a founders pack as well and had a 3 day head start and I’ve been stuck at 1083 ilvl for quite awhile… these honing fails are starting to get on my nerves.

you only get enough leapstones to fail a 1080 - 1100 upgrade twice a day… then… well you are s.o.o.l., time to wait till tomorrow.

Amazing considering this content has been out for years already.

The people complaining about not being able to do a single raid that accounts for .001% of the content in the game, have not completed the other 99.999%. They are whining for the sake of whining. They are like children who’s friends got the latest iPhone but they only have the 11 and are suffering because of it. It is a bunch of manbabies. I hope AGS gives them nothing. It is so childish.

There is an amazing game here. It is absolutely fantastic. With an insane amount available for completely free. I have never seen a more disgusting community in a video game than this one. Free to play brings in the most immature scum. They think they deserve the world for no reason. People on this board need to grow up.

You are doing something terribly terribly wrong then, people have been in t3 for like 3 weeks or more.

Buddy, even people who payed hundreds of dollars including myself are saying the current stuff we’re missing is crap, the rates are crap and the way they are handling things is crap.

Do not believe people who have 3-4 charakters in tier 3 who say they didnt spend money. Its not true. I have played 500 hours, i have 6 charakter did all dailies every day since it was possible and so far i have a main in tier 3 and 1 alt in tier 3. 3 in tier 2 and 1 in tier 1. I also knew how rhe game works and i bought 10k crystals early to shop nonstop in marie shop. I doubt all those f2p i have everything blabla people slept 4-5 hours only and played nonstop like i did.

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am i?

on the plus side I get a new title if I get to 500?

There are a lot of lying pundits on this forum. They all love the game so much they have to debate you on the forum. They have all mokoko seeds over 100 roster level and almost all collectibles without ever spending money and never no lifing. They are also 1370+ already. Game is perfect, why can’t you just enjoy the game?

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Yes. you get 2-3 honing tries a day or more, if you’ve done your islands, do your dailies(guardian raids, chaos dungeon, unas tasks for either shards or leapstones,) every day, grind infinite chaos (technically not infinite since t1-t2 costs dont scale ,takes maybe 2h a week), ghost ship weekly, world boss on the days they’re on, abyss dungeons and buy the extra chest (mats from the chest cost less than you get from the dungeon so you still get a profit), chaos gate, pirate coin vendor, guild shop vendor etc you shouldnt be spending more than 2-3 weeks in 2 at the most, and even 3 weeks is kind of a stretch if thats your first character. I had around 35 fails and still ended up in t3 by feb 22nd.

That being said, we are missing content that gives us more materials so that;s certainly not helping any tier, but its 100% realistic to be t3 as f2p (what ilv at t3 is gonna vary for people) if you are actually doing this stuff.

did you miss the part about me failing 40 times?

Did you miss the part where I said i had 35 fails for t2 before I hit t3?