Im still kinda in disbelief how Reaper is still not here

Why for no reason ? Did you even read the post. If there is one class that is questionable to not be released earlier is reaper.

If you are new to MMO’s you wont understand what im trying to say here and why im curious what the reasoning is to hold off one of the OG type of gameplay for so long.

I’m with you here. The fact that we don’t have all classes yet just sucks and there is no excuse to it. Doesn’t matter if it is Reaper, Summoner or Artist. We should have gotten them all by now.

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Yea it was also a good opportunity if we had all classes at launch they could of gave us artist in May in september aeromancer and a global release in december/january with female berserker.

With this move we would of been atleast on par with KR regarding classes and would enjoy the LOA’s more getting atleast hyped about new classes and test ourselfs instead just watching the streamers.

I stopped reading after this

Did the same :smiley:

Maybe Reaper or “Dagger maiden” or whatever Amazon trolls with is just stealthed in the corner and you just havn’t found it yet?

Class release order, was pretty much set in stone around when the Glavier came out (that time when AGS went to Korea to plan stuff with SG), which is why player feedback about what classes should be released first, “logic” such as “Assasins only have 2” is basically worthless to them.

You mean the Deathblade? imo Deathblade looks more like your average MMO Assasin than Reaper, Reaper is more like an “Advance” class version of Deathblade.

Also, I don’t understand why all these Reaper posts always say Reaper is the most popular unreleased class, yet (at least here on the forums) the artist thread is the one with most views and replies. I don’t think class popularity plays a role in the clasas release order and in any case although popular I doubt Reaper is the most popular (Specially true for players from KR and Ru that are playing in NA).

Yea its not for me about assassin classes have only 2 subclasses argument but more like reaper should of been instead deathblade/demonic or atleast released early to appease the Assassin community.

Like how they did it with Sorceress instead summoner because well SHE is the classic mage what you also saw in your older MMO’s.

They made the mage community happy, the warriors are happy for their berserker but the ones that play the classic assassin got left out.

ok but deathblade/shadowhunter were the first assasin classes to release.

I think, and I’m only speculating, the reason they did it, was because the low popularity and difficulty of the class in KR compared to the other 2. Or maybe it was because those 2 were released first in KR.

But we’ll never know for sure.

Oh men, you should have seen the cries and walls of text for summoner, even Roxx said she mained a summoner on the beta and was a bit dissapointed she couldn’t do anything about it. Is just that most Summonist enjoyers gave up on the forums.

Ok, I give you this one.

No way is deathblade the face of assassins. Well maybe depends what mmo’s but from my 3 older mmos i played they had stealth,agile,poison, fast attacking animation ( DB charge skills really?)

And i always played that type of class.

Well yea artist is different to reaper. She looks different of a class and gameplay for an mmo class so i can see why the interest comes. Reaper is a OG class that always existed in mmo’s and not existed was always also the original roster of an mmo.

Maybe they thought that DB was good enough as an assassin, you may think it’s not but the point still stands that it is lol.

It’s been almost 6 months, assassin players are playing their assassins, not sure what you’re in disbelief over.

Artist, Summoner especially along with reapers are waiting on their classes.

Well when you put it like that, makes sense. My vision of an “assasin” class is basically a ninja, mostly a melee class no magic other than a few special habilities, on this note, I can’t understand how SH is an assasin at all, but whatever.

But no more then lower then destroyer,arcana,summoner and almost on par with scouter think with shadowhunter too.

Well summoner and arcana was also released before Sorceress and yet we got sorc at launch.

Yea can understand this part but i bet more “Sorceress” mains got happy by that because you cant go wrong with that class if you were always the spellcaster mage in the mmo’s before.

But yea that was a whole different case because they really knew months before they got to play their summoner and then not so i can understand their outrage. (Cant say the same to the rest)

Well not me lol and that is coming from a guy that mostly plays assassins in mmo’s and fighter classes, thats why i main striker and you know what? Striker feels more like an assassin because of the flow of animations the skill speed usage can get faster around with mobilty just what an assassin defines for me and not DB/Demonic.

Ofcourse i miss my stealth,blink and poison related stuff.

but Sorceress was actually missing from the initial kr classes release. summoner was there and arcana. sorceress wasn’t even released until august 2021. so yes, the game was totally fine and not missing anything because they had both summoner and arcana, with sorceress added later on. same way we have deathblade and shadowhunter with reaper still waiting to be added. i am not saying i approve of the western release order, just simply pointing out the game existed just fine without sorc, same way game’s ‘fine’ without repear but having other ‘assassin type’ classes instead.

Yea i know and thats why they gave us sorceress instead summoner because the “West” plays fire,ice,lighting mages and from my experience “West” also likes the “traditional” assassin/ninja type of style so stealth,agile,blink,fast animation skills.

But yea its different for the KR community i bet. I think i read or heard from a streamer the reason why sorceress was created even was to prepare also for the global launch release and she came in august/Sept 2021 i think ? 2 months before the announcement of global release.

So thats why i kinda question why gave us all the traditional classes (Bersk,Sorc,Hawkeye etc) at launch but leave out the traditional assassin or atleast release it earlier before anything else i just dont get it.

The west also loves to play summoning builds too. Look at diablo with their necromancer skeleton army and Druid summoning army. Even WoW with their Hunter pet builds, Death knight with their skeleton summons and Warlock with their army of demons.
Summoner just has an appeal where players like to summon huge shit and smash people with it XD.

For that point, there are plenty of classes that are agile, with blinks/fast dashes & quick animations.
There are literal swiftness builds dedicated to further improving those playstyles on top of it.

From my POV every meele back-attacker is practically an assassin, you have assassin WD, Striker, Scrapper, DB, Zerker. They all need to attack from behind, different aesthetics I agree but the playstyle is there.

Mage & summoner no one knows, it’d be more likely due to summoner being reworked & animations updated cause they were old whereas mage was new with fancy animations - maybe a bonus for the global release etc. In KR summoner’s been buffed & animations all updated, I assume we’ll get the updated buffed version of her.

West is not some “Only we in NA play wizardz” here lol.

You are barking up the wrong tree if you expect to hear reasoning behind this from the likes of Roxx and other CMs.

And to answer your question, reason I was completely uninterested in Lost Ark years ago when it launched and I tried it out in KR was because of 2 things. It didn’t have a traditional assassin archetype class and it didn’t have a traditional mage. Those are the 2 classes I always played in all mmos, even tho game seemed cool I was completely uninterested in playing soulfist, arcana, destroyer etc.

Moment reaper dropped on RU is when I finally picked up the game and played it on RU server until it got released here in the west. When I realized that they weren’t brining in reaper as a release class (as it already existed) but I still decided to play the game thinking it will be released fast, I mean it has to, it’s the only assassin right? Also no region before us was drip fed the classes, so that was never in my thoughts to begin with. However, of course that amazon games had to disappoint every living being playing this game in some way. I was in disbelief for a month, thinking it has to be a joke that they are slowing down class releases so much that they will drip them for a year. I was thinking for a month that they are actually going to surprise us with rapid releasing classes during summer as summers have always been best time to get into the game in all regions… and then nothing. Scouter announced for sept, reaper in nov is a dice roll, and I lost all will to play the game now. Only reason I ever made SH was because I always had one as an alt, thinking I will be getting them only 2 gems and saving all other for reaper, never did I think even for a second that that is going to happen a year later.

This is all amazons doing, I have absolutely no doubt about it. RU got artist couple months after artist was released in KR, and they were never drip fed content. Why? Because amazon games did not release it in RU lol. Simple. Company as disconnected with the community, uninformed and as detached as amazon games is never going to succeed in the gaming industry. Lost ark is all the proof you need for that, you give amazon games well established, well polished very popular game and they run it into the ground so much that 4 regions combined have 90-150k active players (everything else being bots of course) and this is only 6 months after the launch. KR is a single region and they have over 200k active players! We already have 2 regions that are dead or dying (EUW/SA) and NAW is next one on the chopping board. Player numbers are everything in this game, it’s how the game is designed. If you don’t have enough people playing it game is completely unplayable as you depend on drops that are only accessible when masses of people play and couple of them happen to get a good RNG.

Anyway, my entire point was, game is being severely mismanaged. It’s being ruined by AGS, they are running it into the ground, and they are doing it fast. You know what’s the reason for it? They don’t care about how good the game is, they don’t care what kind of experience players have. As long as it makes profit, they will keep doing whatever they want or think is right. This is the reason amazon will never have a successful game or place in the huge gaming industry. They are not fit for it, they don’t have right people running the place who understand what values a gaming company should have. Until that changes this game is doomed in the west. Instead of reading this and taking it as valuable feedback, what CM would do is delete the comment and maybe hand a ban without this even breaking any ToS, because they can and because they want to keep their image clean, image that’s already filthy as it gets but they are only ones who don’t get it apparently.