When you buy a bus, you aren’t getting all the gold you need for things like honing, increasing quality, buying books, stones, acessories you can’t find.
You are literally trading the gold for the bus. lol Are you confused? You don’t profit from the run like you think do you do running it normally. It’s IMPLIED, maybe you need to THINK instead of just READING lol.
Again. READ!
I said when you have enough gold. Cant you read and understand?
At this point maybe you responded to the wrong post.
I said the busses kill how the game is meant to be played b/c no1 is looking for groups normally to do raids, players aren’t actually even playing/learning the game to be able to participate later, not gaining rote experience/knowledge etc. on top of how much slower you’re going to be earning progression b/c you pay for services with part of that gold etc.
Doesn’t matter if ‘eventually in 1 year of busses’ i got my set or 5 accessories? You never played the game, never joined another group who needed another player? You contributed nothing to keep that aspect of the game alive.
Anyways, I already said if your plan is to just do nothing, and play for nothing but yourself then it’s all good cuz SG don’t care anyways. I’m just addressing why it’s bad for the base of the game. Of course, if you already don’t play the game, then bussing is good. Maybe this could work if you play strictly in a static and only need the service, but this is def not the majority nor what is happening. People simply get pointed to the bussing services, new, normal or hardcores.
People who playing from day 1 have gone through everything step by step, we wiped infinitely on Vertus, Helgia, Fire fox, Scorpion and many more. We wiped infinitely on abyss raid also, We honed through t2 without any buff, but were having fun and not rushing. Now we are getting fruits for our struggle by bussing people on multiple alts. Also game is very easy compared to when it was released as because of 100 different buffs and mat prices are 100 times lower.
I think game is in good position and bussing is not bad at all, if you are not interested in bussing make your group and you will find people in 5 mins max assuming you are decently geared.
There are always non-bus groups going. Stop crying, game is fantastic, everyone is good at game now, new skins are sexy, and big gap between raids made new raids easily accessible for any type of player, you should be ready for Kuku with 5x3 and lvl 7 gems if you been playing game f2p and smartly.
Pheons are bit of a issue which can be easily solved by reducing accessories pheon cost. but accessories are something you gonna keep until ancient, if you are buying relic accessories to make 4x3 then it is you issue not game issue as you are wasting pheons.
Yeah well back in my day we walked to school in 8 feet of snow uphill both ways.
because sometimes, id rather watch netflix than doing it 6 times a week to avoid burn out and not miss out the gold.
I mean if you are at 6 characters that can run vykas already I don’t doubt that you would rather watch Netflix than keep burning through the content loop each week.
Keep playing different classes helped, but yeah some weeks I do get tired out, this is the intended usage of bus in KR as well tbh.
Yeah it’s a very fair argument as well. I have 3 Vykas ready and 1 (almost 2) clown ready and have been pretty consistent on clearing all daily/weekly content each week. Hard to say it isn’t getting exhausting and mundane.
I think bussing in general is fine, driver gets extra cash, riders get to watch netflix.
Only thing I am against however is that people not on ilvl getting access to gold where they were otherwise not able to get, which is 1370 gets full p3 gold rewards.
Of course there is the argument of insane pheon cost and I do get why people don’t want to properly gear up their characters at 1370 when it is instantly obsolete with 50k gold(can be cheaper with loads of shards and GHL saved) honing in 10 min.
Argos being a 3 gate 3 GS without a exit per gate makes it acceptable that it would be bussed.
I don’t want to bus my 1370 lopang alts, but it’s a waste not to. I’m not about to push them to 1400 right now so it just is what it is
Bussing in WoW existed well before then. People paid for arena rating.
Every game that has group content and progression, bussing exists in some form. Even helping your low level friend catch up to you by running them through content is technically bussing.
People just never think about it because “it’s fine for me, not for you”
You are definitely not wrong, I would bus my alts if they were still at 1370 myself because if I don’t it is a waste, but it is poorly designed system and causes inflation in the economy, and bots are utilizing this very well while being hard for mods to catch.
Oh yes it has huge problems, especially with the PP + Express event basically delivering a bot to Argos bus instantly
Did I say it didnt? Read what I wrote…
You said it exploded. It certainly did not. There were entire arena carrying website services that started up from it.
The entire EU Arena ladder got taken over by RU wintrading for ELO carries. That’s years before WoW tokens.
The Legion raids freaking suck. Especially Vykas. There are just too many bs one shot mechanics for it to be fun.
It certainly did explode INGAME. Im not speaking about black market there
Okay that actually makes complete sense. We tend to bus a lot of these giga-whales that can hone as much as they can but they can’t buy skill, lmao. Tonight’s bus featured a sub Roster 80 that was already 1472, zero Relic pieces 
You mean raid mechs? I find those to be quite fun actually, lmao. Short-manning (bussing) Gate 2 especially is pretty cool once you figure out the patterns.