I am not sure if you can. But know this, when he opens lost ark and plans on honing on stream, he has that planned for the show. He knows that he will have gold for honing. If he was short of gold, then he is expecting to be sent gold at that moment in time. If none of this happened, because i didn’t see that part of his stream, then the only reason he didn’t get banned is because its clean money. Only because liquid maximum got banned to collecting gold from mail from RMT.
Where do you think the gold used to buy your higher priced items sold on AH comes from?
Unless you sell nothing, or sell only items worth barely anything, the inflated prices due to RMT means whether you intend or not, any selling you do on AH is being paid for in good part by RMT gold.
At this point, with RMT inflating economy so much, if your standard is any receiving of RMT = bad person and/or ban, then congrats because that is you, me, anyone that sells anything worth current market prices
At the moment actually RMT’ing has gone down dramatically with the recent ban waves. Mats are going down in price a lot, and BC/Gold currency exchange took a dive too. It was like 850g/238RC a week ago, now it’s been below 700 today. Within a week GHL’s have gone down at least 25% in price. Guardian/Destruction stones are dropping too.
It is a known strategy in streaming. It is used to attract whales. You give your own money to your friends and they donate with it on stream.
Maybe so, maybe not. But kind of irrelevant for now and way into the future unless currency supply is somehow significantly deflated.
RMT inflation has been running so long, current market prices are sold at prices factoring in the high currency supply. Even if what you say is true and nearly all new RMT is cut off, still means vast supply of prior bought gold exists, which therefore still puts upwards price pressure on items sold.
Yeah it entirely depends upon if AGS/Smilegate can maintain this current attack on RMT bot farmers or not, whether it will be a momentary blip or not.
If they can maintain it, eventually things will settle and the market will adjust. If more and more players have less gold, from not having huge amounts of RMT gold pumped into the market, then F2P players gold will hold more value, and prices for things will naturally lower, because all legitimate sources of gold will always be lower than RMT methods, or even currency exchange methods for whales/dolphins. You can’t maintain selling something for 200% it’s value if no one is willing to buy it.
U can be a streamer too
Cause if I hate you, all I need to do is make a free Steam account and a free Lost Ark account and buy 50 cents of RMT gold and mail it to you and then report you. Now you’re banned for 50 cents and not a thing you can do about it.
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Yes it’s fine. they didn’t buy the gold.
I’m more concerned about the scenario where gold sellers start sending “hey streamer, long time fan, here’s 10000 gold” messages, mixed in with their actual business, and fuck up streamers because they get automatically picked up for gold buying.
I’m not. In that scenario, the streamer didn’t solicit RMT. The streamer didn’t purchase the gold via RMT. To ban RMT users, the people running the servers need to actually track an RMT exchange, which isn’t as straight-forward as “somebody RMT’d and received a bunch of gold, they’re RMTing”
Proof requires more than that. It could just be some dude who gets some gold from his friend, completely earned in-game. This is why it’s not a simple problem to solve like a lot of randoms believe without giving a moment of critical thought.
Edit: In another facet, though… i personally don’t feel like streamers receiving gold from random viewers in game is very good, as it doesn’t actually show viewers a natural gaming experience. That’s just a personal viewer perspective though; nothing to do with whether it should be okay or not.
mininum purchase of rmt is 10k gold :3
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Is 3rd-party RMT bad? Yes
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Should 3rd-party RMT’ers be punished? Yes
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Is a streamer receiving gold gifts bad? No
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Should a streamer that unknowingly received gold bought on 3rd party site be punished? No
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Should a streamer that knowingly received gold bought on a 3rd party site be punished? Yes
The issue is, how do we differentiate whether a streamer is acting knowingly or unknowingly. Are they complicit or not? We can’t ascertain that a streamer is involved with 100% certainty.
Are AGS even aware if an account is a streamer? Probably not. It is likely that all AGS see is RMT gold being moved from one account to another.
All we can expect AGS to do is set a specific ruling and then it is up to the streamer to act accordingly. If AGS are banning streamers based on receiving RMT gold accepted then the streamer needs to act accordingly to limit that risk. If they are banned unfairly then they can petition AGS to have their ban removed. The streamer may even agree to have that amount of gold reduced.
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10k gold? Sounds about perfect fit for valtan bus. You could even save the time and trouble by having them mail the gold directly to the bus host too.
Simple -NO.
If you received a million dollars in your bank account not knowing where it came from and decided to spend it. You would still face consequences for doing so which includes paying it back.
Same applies here, if you receive gold and accept it, you take on the same risk.
This is why negative gold is a great solution, and while AGS “can” put accounts into negative, they don’t.
But its okay to ban people who buy skin from auction and the seller does a chargeback, nice logic dude 
It did happen, i saw one time asmongold received rmt from erfubzefb it was 90k and he did accept it
As long as streamer is unaware what is the source of that gold they should be left alone. But still, the person who bought and sold that gold should be tracked, spanked, and banned.
Ok. I can obviously see the anwsers justyfing that it’s viewers gold.
Ask your self this.
How hard would be for a streamer to RMT high amount and treat it as “viewers gift”. Seen some of them getting HUGE ammount of gold and / or mats.
Also, viewer can just give their nick on RMT site and send gold/mats this way.
This is why you can’t just ban everybody…
that’s why in RL the law depends on what you could reasonably assume 
It’s literary the case when a camera gets stolen, and you it from street seller for 20% of price.
Technically you bought it and didn’t “know” about the origin but you will loose it anyway even if you “paid” for it. It’s never black and white.
And in the game of RMT, well, did he at least asked if those “gifts” are legit? Or be just “oh I didn’t even know RMT existed, man that’s bad, how could’ve I known?”
Like one of our politician who was “gifted” $500k and he “wasn’t even aware he was carrying money in that box”. Jailed btw.
They can just like… you know not accept gold from unknown sources?