U can be a streamer too
Cause if I hate you, all I need to do is make a free Steam account and a free Lost Ark account and buy 50 cents of RMT gold and mail it to you and then report you. Now you’re banned for 50 cents and not a thing you can do about it.
Yes it’s fine. they didn’t buy the gold.
I’m more concerned about the scenario where gold sellers start sending “hey streamer, long time fan, here’s 10000 gold” messages, mixed in with their actual business, and fuck up streamers because they get automatically picked up for gold buying.
I’m not. In that scenario, the streamer didn’t solicit RMT. The streamer didn’t purchase the gold via RMT. To ban RMT users, the people running the servers need to actually track an RMT exchange, which isn’t as straight-forward as “somebody RMT’d and received a bunch of gold, they’re RMTing”
Proof requires more than that. It could just be some dude who gets some gold from his friend, completely earned in-game. This is why it’s not a simple problem to solve like a lot of randoms believe without giving a moment of critical thought.
Edit: In another facet, though… i personally don’t feel like streamers receiving gold from random viewers in game is very good, as it doesn’t actually show viewers a natural gaming experience. That’s just a personal viewer perspective though; nothing to do with whether it should be okay or not.
mininum purchase of rmt is 10k gold :3
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Is 3rd-party RMT bad? Yes
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Should 3rd-party RMT’ers be punished? Yes
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Is a streamer receiving gold gifts bad? No
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Should a streamer that unknowingly received gold bought on 3rd party site be punished? No
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Should a streamer that knowingly received gold bought on a 3rd party site be punished? Yes
The issue is, how do we differentiate whether a streamer is acting knowingly or unknowingly. Are they complicit or not? We can’t ascertain that a streamer is involved with 100% certainty.
Are AGS even aware if an account is a streamer? Probably not. It is likely that all AGS see is RMT gold being moved from one account to another.
All we can expect AGS to do is set a specific ruling and then it is up to the streamer to act accordingly. If AGS are banning streamers based on receiving RMT gold accepted then the streamer needs to act accordingly to limit that risk. If they are banned unfairly then they can petition AGS to have their ban removed. The streamer may even agree to have that amount of gold reduced.
10k gold? Sounds about perfect fit for valtan bus. You could even save the time and trouble by having them mail the gold directly to the bus host too.
Simple -NO.
If you received a million dollars in your bank account not knowing where it came from and decided to spend it. You would still face consequences for doing so which includes paying it back.
Same applies here, if you receive gold and accept it, you take on the same risk.
This is why negative gold is a great solution, and while AGS “can” put accounts into negative, they don’t.
But its okay to ban people who buy skin from auction and the seller does a chargeback, nice logic dude ![]()
It did happen, i saw one time asmongold received rmt from erfubzefb it was 90k and he did accept it
As long as streamer is unaware what is the source of that gold they should be left alone. But still, the person who bought and sold that gold should be tracked, spanked, and banned.
Ok. I can obviously see the anwsers justyfing that it’s viewers gold.
Ask your self this.
How hard would be for a streamer to RMT high amount and treat it as “viewers gift”. Seen some of them getting HUGE ammount of gold and / or mats.
Also, viewer can just give their nick on RMT site and send gold/mats this way.
This is why you can’t just ban everybody…
that’s why in RL the law depends on what you could reasonably assume
It’s literary the case when a camera gets stolen, and you it from street seller for 20% of price.
Technically you bought it and didn’t “know” about the origin but you will loose it anyway even if you “paid” for it. It’s never black and white.
And in the game of RMT, well, did he at least asked if those “gifts” are legit? Or be just “oh I didn’t even know RMT existed, man that’s bad, how could’ve I known?”
Like one of our politician who was “gifted” $500k and he “wasn’t even aware he was carrying money in that box”. Jailed btw.
They can just like… you know not accept gold from unknown sources?
Well they are accepting everything. Live. People are basically funding game for some of them. How can we know they don’t sneak in some RMT?
Not sure of official policy but personal opinion, content providers shouldn’t be allowed to accept in game gifts from players. Especially when there is in game loot available through content providers sometimes. Most game don’t allow official content providers to accept “gifts” but not even going to bother checking for the official rules, if its allowed good for them, if not then they risking themselves not me.
The thing that I find funny is asmongold for example barely plays the game, and when he does he burns gold and mats like a coal power plant. In his case it evens out in the end? idk but I doubt that if someone sends him rmt gold he will be banned.
Finally someone else notices this:) And yeah as a lead content provider its basically free advertising for them so he would likely get away with things easier, sad but true real life facts.
Yes it is. Streamers didn’t RMT, players did. Ban the players or put them into negative gold, what does a streamer have to do with it?
There’s 0.001% of streamers compared to actual players, if you can’t handle that such handful of people get free gold from their fans, you should really get a life. I am saying this as someone who is not asmon fan, I’d never donate my gold to any streamer, but I don’t care one bit whether someone else does.
If Andy goes to g2g and buys gold for Asmongold how the admin is supposed to know it’s not Asmon himself?
If I go and buy gold for you it’s you that will get banned if you take it.
Which is ridiculous. If you just press “take all attachments” when doing auction you are screwed.
GG