Is reflux piano build reputation really that bad?

not really, high APM build like instant cast reflux rely on your gems and tripods.

yes, this is what I mean

Yes you are right it is hard to accept. I find that many pubs are either really ignorant when it comes to looking for the right candidate for their party and or theiy’re selfish AF. They only want players who are stronger than they are. It’s gross

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Honestly, most people just think if you don’t have meta builds your basically garbage lmao :man_facepalming:, I have the same issue running control glaivier instead of pinnacle.

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There is some elitism in the lobbies, like fail once = kick, or needs 10x3 engravings

Or must have Grudge/Cursed doll which is not cheap. Ironically they are usually ones to die first

not to mention the toxicity. Seen ppl get accepted only to be trolled about their build then kicked.

I think either create your own or find another group or guild, I did the latter and has some success

maybe they need lvl 300 roster , 1600ilvl requirements

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No your wrong, they require you to have all mokokos collected and island souls as well as roster 500

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NA is just built DIFFERENT I guess

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We are still under construction :joy:

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There are few experienced lobby host who will accept you based on reasonable criterias. But don’t count on it. If you find yourself having a hard time being accepted to a raid, just try to make a lobby of your own. AND remember to be reasonable when accepting others. Don’t pass on what you hate.

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Obviously if you have rainbow stats, you get what you deserve, unless your in a learning group

Reflux is one the best builds across all classes for Vykas. I’d consistently MVP with your character.

People suck at recruiting people that’s why.

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You can easily clear Vykas HM on ilvl with any common variation of reflux build. They all work and they all deliver the dps required to clear the content. Heck I’ve done hellmodes with instant reflux (not piano tho) and it’s just fine. Piano reflux should work very well for Vykas in particular where casting reflux variants and Igniter tend to struggle at times due to the high amount of movement of the bosses.

Also most people don’t spend more than 3 seconds looking at an applicant for a pug and most of them only look at ilvl, engravings and maybe set.

There is nothing wrong about being 4x3 relic gear in Vykas HM, but there are too many sorcs looking for party so you would have to be exceptionally better to get accepted first. Also I’ve noticed some people just don’t like taking sorcs and zerkers, because they saw a few very bad players and somehow it affects their opinion on whole class.

ofc its lower in trixion, try to land ur doomsday or explosion or punishing striker igniter constantly in actual raid or have to hold ur skill till boss doing an attack so u can land ur doomsday :stuck_out_tongue:

You are only missing the fact that the Trixion doesn’t move around as much as Vykas and Guardians. So in that sense, Igniter will always hit harder.

I think most people don’t know the effectiveness of instant cast builds because is not viable until you get your relic set and some cooldown gems.

I have full relic set and even set zero cooldown for insta cast to see its true damage potential.

The only factor here is yes, bosses move around and do these gimmicks. So that is one pro that insta cast has over igniter. However, I was comparing caster reflux vs insta cast reflux. In my conclusion, it goes something like this:

Igniter hits the hardest and have the highest dps potential, but almost most punishing and hardest to pull off. Is it worth it?

Insta cast reflux hits the lightest, but fastest, easiest to pull off during a real fight. Most forgiving. Though the dps is lowest in Trixon.

Finally, there’s the regular caster reflux which I see it as being in the middle, a cross between insta cast and igniter. This was my preference.

theres an ATK interview vid of a sorc 1 trick pony, he play 6 sorcs and he prefer reflux piano over igniter and you should see the comparison of his solo monkey guardian run between reflux piano vs igniter

in the end its just up to people’s preferences. I myself have played both build and i prefer reflux piano because i like high APM builds / class and i dont like playing something that is too slow / clunky

I’ve seen the vid. And yaaa it’s a matter of preference. I wouldn’t let that one person’s opinion be the “be all end all” for your decision. Again, it’s preferences. If someone prefer bursty, big damage numbers, high risk/reward, then igniter might be their choice.

But for consistency and leeway, reflux is the way to go. Keep in mind there are two reflux builds.

This.
I main igniter and in order to actually be efficient you need to know boss fights very well.
I’ve noticed as we get more Legion raids my DPS windows get smaller (which saint pre warned about anyways).
Piano is extremely forgiving with more ease of use but nothing feels better than landing and criting a full igniter rotation.
Also having a lvl 9 cd and DMG gem for DD helps a lot.
I recommend atleast a lvl 8 cd gem for DD.