Isn't it time for some constructive feedback for Lost Ark?

I have been reading the forums for a while now, and the big topics are always about
“Ark is dying all the players are leaving”
“Honing is terrible, the dead zone is unbearable”
“The devs are greedy for cash and ark is P2W”
"The game is being taken over by skynet :frowning: "

Well those are all very valid and very significant issues in lost ark, especially since people on the forums think that way, causing negativity and dissatisfaction that will cause more people to leave.
So… What would you propose to address these issues? I am not defending AGS or SG here, I genuinely want to know what ideas you guys have to make the game better.

TLDR: What ideas do you have to solve these issues?
Now to start rambling.
For starters:
In order to convince the devs to update the honing system, we need to give them suggestions of alternatives, that will not only allow the game to feed us content at a consistent and appropriate rate, but also allows the devs enough time to create new content.
A deadzone usually happens to slow players down while new content is being made, but its strange to have one on NA/EU as there is already content available.
Buffing current honing system from 1340 to 1370 right now will be very disappointing for those who are already at 1370+ gear score and pushed through those barriers either with time or money. If we buff the honing rates too early, the whales no longer whale in the future in fear of changes like these and long story cut short, and the game dies without their source of income.
Ideally they should’ve just removed the dead zone when the game released but its a bit late to change that, so what solutions do you have now?

  1. How do you address deadzones that are outdated? (Other than the current solution of catchup events such as the grand prix)

Second:
Ark is P2W… What does P2W mean though? Before the price crash, to gain a noticeable advantage you would need to pay alot of money, which not many people can do. So the high price would dissuade most light spenders from spending money to gain an advantage, which hence means less number of people spending money to win. If people need to spend hundreds or thousands to gain any advantage over a F2P isnt the game not P2W? The nature of a currency exchange also prevents whales from causing sudden changes to the game as multiple whales trying to buy gold at once will have to bid with each other, driving prices up and making blue crystals cheaper for a F2P, which should be a good thing for a F2P. The currency exchange works as a control of how much a whale can spend, adjusted based on the amount of gold in the economy, and how attractive it is to spend on the game.
2. Do you have a better system to discourage P2W behaviour while allowing AGS and smilegate to profit from the game?

Lastly the bots.
The bots cant be stopped the same way they were in korea. One way is to add a price tag to the game, which adds a barrier to people who want to try out the game. Whether the benefits outweigh the costs… Well seeing AGS’s actions I dont think they felt it was worth it. If you tried to hire mods to remove every single bot in the game you would run out of time and money. Bots cant be stopped by humans. An algorithm could possibly work, but if it derps and randomly bans people that would suck.
3. Do you have any ideas that would be cost effective and adaptable to combat the bot issue?

I have my own ideas but thats for another post. I would love to hear what ideas you guys have. The better your ideas, the higher the chances that the devs will listen and implement them. From epic seven, I personally believe smilegate does listen to its player base and tries to change things for the better.

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There has been constructive feedback since beta and before that even as people were discussing what a Western version could/should look like, it’s just that it has always been completely ignored, once people pick up on this, they stop doing it and become part of the negativity. It’s a vicious cycle.

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Yeah but people asking for weird stuff is not really a feedback, you can still see the echoes of that in game feedback section.

i asked for a better world map interface because our current map is kinda shit for a pc game in 2022

i don’t think that’s a weird or unreasonable request.
i also know nothing will get done for it though, they might update that at some time in the future when they decide to do an UI update maybe

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Wasn’t really targeting individuals but there are(were) some wild requests that is barely looked at and then some good suggestions gets buried under those things.

Why though? So people reach content ceiling too quickly and then complain there’s nothing to do? Gating is done for a reason. To give the player time to get to a certain ilvl before they release new content. The deadzone wasnt “fixed” until later content was released in the game. The deadzone wasnt addressed towards active seasoned players anyways, it was to new players to catch up to more relevant KR content at the time.

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So many given great feedback! But nothing of it ever got heard! AGS is a soulless money greddy company!

So many changes to our version that dont make sense! As far as I know the class most wanted was not even the 2 first we are getting??
This is all just a mess!

AGS cut out so much from the game and change more than needed,
breaking the game more or less!
Just so they can spoon feed us content and milk money!
And then whiteknights say it ok to get little by little as the game come out like that.
the game is many year old now why not give us the version doing good somewhere ells?

Westernize game is a joke most of it is censoring game and characters! AGS are racist’s, making white character to black and changing so many others ethnic look.
Wonder how that go if it was turned around! Why even change that?

Look forward to see how they are going to FK up artist since whiteknights only see sexuall towards a game avatar!

By devs you mean Smilegate, the same smilegate that develops Korean version of the game. Lost Ark KR is basically future of Lost ark global. What does this mean? You are advocating for changes to Lost Ark KR.
Not happening. They are happy with the game and honing as it is. This isn’t hard to understand. If you hate honing so much then game rly isn’t for you. Simple truth.

P2W is not a defined term which means everyone has their own definition for it. Unless you intend to make everyone discuss this “issue” on premise you set it;s completely pointless to even raise it.

Having separate business models for a game depending on the region is never a good idea. Will only rise more controversy.

Not a single monetized game in existence has found a way to stop bots. So long there is a way to gain money from botting it will happen. However if you do find such method i do think you should be nominated for Nobel prize. So keep looking.

I don’t want to be mean but your take is simply shallow. Lost Ark is not a game developed with only western version in mind but you treat it as if it was. You cannot expect Smilegate to make “our” game different simply because we want it to be different. It is true that many issues that we have with the game steam from the simple fact that it;s a game developed for Korea and has some solutions that are well, very catered to how gaming in Korea works. Fixing that would take not only a lot of resources but also a lot of kicking and spitting in the faces of Korean players - which is something Smilegate will never do and shouldn’t do. It;s like saying we should turn WoW into more of a Final fantasy so that more Japanese play it. Ridiculous idea, ain’t it?

Pretty sure Glavier was literally the most posted class the community wanted released.

Yeah, they cut out potions to give extra chaos dungeon runs
And bundles of materials at the price of Royal Crystal.
How dare they milk the whales removing these P2W items!

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(IMO) The real issue of this game that needs to be addressed, is that every interesting and challenging content of this game is related to TIME! it is either at a specific time or in limited times of attempts and therefore this situation is creating gaps and dead zones of playing during the playtime. Somedays I can find myself completely clueless and bored about what to do. A situation that I haven’t encountered in other games in such a common way such in LA.

This situation has to change. Otherwise, people will start to lose interest in the game very quickly due to the fact that you can find yourself always waiting for the weekly reset for getting some thrill from the game but thill then you most of the time in “Dry Playing”

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The moment you post any feedback, you are getting swarmed by angry fanatics of the game. Just give up.

This game nor this community is not worth our attention and care. Just join us and enjoy the fire.

I mean, that is how the game is designed. To allow players who dont have alot of time to play to progress on equal footing with one character. And if you want to expedite the process, you more more characters to funnel materials to your main character. 70% of what you do right now will be repeatable content.

Fanatics of the game. Lol. Oh where are my manners.

Hello there Not-a-fanatic-san.
I would like to tell you again that when you present opinion on forum - any kind of forum, be it online or offline - you also accept that there might be people who disagree and you should take into account that they might have legitimate reasons to disagree. If you refuse to do that it’s no longer discussion.

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Isn’t it time for some constructive improvements to Lost Ark?

This. This is exactly the freaking issue. People like you have problem with that.

You just CANT accept that someone has a different opinion. You HAVE TO prove that you are right no matter what, otherwise I don’t know… your body pillow will divorce you or something.

I can’t? How exactly i can’t? Was I the one who started with name calling? No. I gave my arguments as to why i think he’s wrong. And i think those are arguments worth considering which is clearly something you didn’t do. So who has a problem with accepting opinions of someone else?

Want to call me fanatic? Go, read my arguments, deconstruct them and prove to me that i have shitted on the OP and did so unjustly without any consideration.

Most people looked forward to a game with a lot of content!
Little did we all know AGS be changing it all! And that is what I said cut!
And before you say its was Smilegate doing any of this. Look at the other regions having the game. Then it make this funny how out version is watered down when other versions was not and got the classes at start!

This game is not new and why cut it up like this? To make more money on a game that is only a part of the hole game!

If the game was new I be fine with it.
But its not new, so why screw players over that! AGS is doing this all wrong and no wonder the CEO or director had to step down!

You was right Lancemaster was highest. But not the second class it was near last of what people wanted!

I know AGS make the calls but this is slowly turning in to a gaming community that never will forgive or touch a AGS related product!
Just as Amazon prime give you benefits, just cuz they are the publishers and milking there own service in this game. Rotten rotten way!

So if the game is designed in some way that’s it mean is the right way?
the Time Limit on every interesting content really makes the game to be without flexibility for the players and such freedom to choose when or how many times you wanna do raids/abyss I think its really important for the game’s future in my POV

(btw I came from playing Guild Wars 2 and LA doesn’t come nearly to the difficulty and the challenging content we have in guild wars 2 so that’s why I have a hard time here especially when the so-called hard content
eventually revealed as easy and once you are done with it you need to wait another week)

Honestly, I am done with you people.

You are just here to argue, just like I said. Every thread is the same, some random guy replying to you for no reason.

Topic’s called “Isn’t it time for some constructive feedback for Lost Ark?” and you jump me and ask for deconstructing your arguments. Dude, I don’t care about you or your arguments.

I CAME HERE TO COMMENT ON THE TOPIC

You are just proving my point, thank you for that and have a nice day.

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There goes the whole “People like you can;t accept others opinions”
You realize you just said you don’t care about my opinion? Do you even know what’s the definition of word “forum” ? It’s a place for people to exchange OPINIONS. Forums exist for the sake of discussion. Yet you wrote:

So what is forum for you? A place to find people that only agree with you? Good luck with that.

And yet you are first one who went off topic. Congratulations.