It is impossible to be stuck in T1 and T2

Atleast absolute hard stuck like some people in here claim. RNG does what it does best and some get lucky, others less so. The game throws so many resouces at you in both T1 and T2 that I have a hard time to believe that anyone who genuinely tries, and makes use of all the systems the game throws at you, can’t advance towards T3.

Feels a bit disheartening to see people throw into the towels during the tutorial and they don’t even realize that rng will get indefinitely worse in T3. Either they lack patience or simply put the game isn’t for them. Honing is fine and in a good place.

Sincerely,
someone who hit T3 on both EUC and EUW without prior experience from other regions. If I can do it anyone can, get down and grind that shit - it ain’t hard. Cheers!

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It may take some weeks or maybe a month if u have abyssmal luck but sure, HARD stuck is literally impossible since there is a pity system AND you get new materials on a daily basis. If you really reach the pity system on every 14->15 upgrade it takes a while though.

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Actually yeah if you think there is the pity system and you’ll always get 100% chance even if you are the unluckiest person in the world and need the system for every single upgrade for every single piece of gear you technically can never get stuck in a Tier.
I do understand people getting frustrated tough but just wait for the 0.5% chances over +20 on T3. I don’t know why people who don’t have experience want to be in T3 so bad right now while we still don’t have the great T3 content, starting with Argos and maybe Valtan after. T3 is literally a snooze fest right now but maybe they just want to be like streamers or have anxiety issues.

I had literally the worst RNG I failed 14->15 upgrade till 100% pity back to back. And failed constantly from 13+ And I still made it to t3 as f2p.

That being said I was off work for covid and have like 200+ hours played

If the game is not fun…it’s not fun. RNG is never fun, cause you are actually not gated behind your skills but luck.

How comes it bothers you? As soon as I will feel that the game is not respecting my time, I will quit right away. Currently, I still have many things to do but honestly, the honing part is the worst experience by far.

I can really understand people quitting because of honing, cause it really bothersome and not a fun mechanic.


Btw, you can give me advice and I will take it. Where I can farm more T2 mats? Cause I’m sitting on 1083 ilvl and can’t find any.

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I’m still at 580, today I made 10 tries on honig, 1 success and 9 failures at 45%. I will never use the shop to speed up the process, let’s see how bastards devs are to let you not enjoy the game if you buy ONLY the Aura, which is the ONLY thing a western MMO would ask you for. If progression will be a pain in the a$$, like I’m sure it will be, I’m out. Simple.

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sure ppl will eventually break through that tier wall, but the real question is will they stay long enough for that? it’s no joke that it’s very demoralizing when failing a 95% success chance upgrade, Multiple Times to +15 going to t3. i failed it 5x in a row, all that mats & time wasted. frankly i wanted to quit too after the 5th fail.

i empathize with the ppl wanting to give up due to honing fails. this is all for enjoyment but sometimes feels like a full time stressful job, trying to get all these mats then lose it all in one click.

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490 amd not giving a damn, probably just level up up a few alts at this point.

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Not even by using the gold you get in the game to buy crystals which can be used to get mats in the store? That’s still F2P.

I’m 596 for a couple of days, but I’m not rushing either. Had some abysmal luck, but I dont really care.

Can you tell me how I can be stuck at 1090 ilevel in T2 since several days because I keep failing my honing attempts when the percent chances start at 40% ? I keep losing thousands of materials even when honing with 15+ moon’s breath each attempts (I run out of moon’s breath now)

I don’t use Mari’s shop or the auction house to buy materials, maybe that’s the issue ? But then if you claim it’s easy to reach T3 because you can spend thousands of gold in the auction house and hundreds of blue crystals to buy mats off mari’s shop, then this is not what I call it “easy”, since making gold starts being “easy” once you reach T3…

So unless you spend 15 hours a day to play by following specific guides about what to do, what to focus on, etc. I genuinely struggle to understand how is it “so easy” to reach T3 by doing what the game offers you to do each day : Daily quests, weekly quests, chaos, raid, cube, tower (which doesn’t grants you a lot of materials on your main btw), chaos NPC exchange, guild exchanges, etc.
I do all of them and still run out of materials most of the time (especially harmony life shards). And even when I’ve enough mats to start a honing session, I mostly fail and have to wait several days to start again.

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It is possible or semi-possible for people who just play casually and don’t bother with gaining knowledge with yt or LA sites.
Just imagine how much slower your progress would be only if you didn’t know about islands.

What about if I tell you I did all the islands that give T2 materials and I’m still out of them now due to a lot of honing fails ?

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Then most likely you were very inefficient with farming and probably didn’t take advantage of moons breaths from maps or cubes.

I’m in the same position, my gear is all +14/+13 and i have no more materials to get other than my dailies, mechants.

Thankfully the grand prix has some too, so that’s another source.

All it means is I’m at the point where i can get a couple of attempts per day so probably another week to get to T3.

You are correct, if you throw enough time at the problem you will eventually finish T2.

The problem most people face isn’t that they are stuck, it’s that they feel stuck. They feel the grind isn’t worth the time investment, especially when they see what’s coming next and realize this is the easy part.

They don’t want to re-run 9 chaos dungeons and 9 guardian raids every day on multiple alts, beg borrow and steal every resource they can find to eventually hit pity and move up +1. Most people aren’t going to find this enjoyable at all.

I’m 1100 F2P and stuck because my goddamn T3 starter weapon won’t drop. It doesn’t matter where you are at in the game, there is going to be some form of wall or gate or bad RNG that slows you down or even dead stops you and eventually that will burn out a player who isn’t looking to invest 27 hours a day into Lost Ark.

“I keep losing thousands of materials even when honing with 15+ moon’s breath each attempts (I run out of moon’s breath now)”

So if I barely reach 60% from 40 with my moon’s breath and keep having fails, I’m the inefficient one here ?
So if I want to do the same for each pieces I’ve to be lucky enough to get a cube ticket each day, which isn’t the case, in order to run it and get more moon’s breath, but not enough to try more than one piece anyways ?
Same goes with the chaos gates and the rotation maps, etc. of course.

A few things. Anyone who played from day one and did a majority of dailies / islands / etc should be T3 by now due to pity.

However, this doesn’t change the fact that T1/T2 are just the “intro” to the end game and it feels really bad when someone gets bad luck and ends up one or more WEEKS behind their friends. I’ve had that happen to friends I played with, and those people quit.

Tier 3 isn’t much better but at least you are progressing in the “endgame” tier. At least you can do a majority of T3 content with other players. There’s no reason to gate people at T1/2. Argos release this early was a mistake though when there’s other content that gives more honing mats that should have come first :man_facepalming:

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No, you should stop blaming others for your own mistakes/lack of knowledge. That’s a good start.
If people can have alts in tier 3 as F2P it’s really hard to believe that you poor souls did everything right and are “stuck”.

While I agree anyone who played consistently since day 1 should be T3 by now (see my previous post), you can’t really compare alts. I have 2 T3 alts (and more to come) but honing is buffed due to stronghold for alts. This makes a huge difference.